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Albuquerque , New Mexico
May 8 , 1964

UNIDENTIFIED FLYIN:r OOJECT
SOCORRO, NEW MEXICO
APRIL 24 , 1964
Specia l Agent D. Arthur Byr nes , Jr ., Federal
Bureau of I nvest igat ion , stat ioned at Albuquerque , New
Mexico , was at Socorro , New Mexico , and a t t he State
Pol ice Office t here on business l a t e afternoon of
Apr i l 24 , 1964.
At a ppr oximately 5 : 45 to 5:50 P. M., Nep Lopez ,
r adio oper ator in the Socorro County Sheriff ' s Office,
located about t hi r t y feet down the hall f r om the State
Poli ce Office , came int o the State Police Office .
Mr . Lopez advis ed M. S . Chavez , New f,iaxico St at e
Polic e , that he had just rece i ved a r adio call from Officer
Lonnie Zamora to come to an area about one mile southwest
of Socorro . The call was in relation t o some unknown
object which "landed and has taken off . " Agent Byrnes
finished his wor k in the State Poli ce Office at Socorro
at approximat ely 6:00 P . M., April 24 , 1964 , and ther eafter proceeded t o the site where Officer Zamora ,
Socorro County Under sher iff Jim Luckie , Ser geant M. S .
Chavez , and Officer Ted Jordan , New Mexico State Police ,
were assemb led .

It may be not ed that it has been the obser vat ion
of Agent Byr nes t hat Offi cer Zamora , known i ntimate l y for
approximat ely fi ve years , is well regar ded as a sober ,
industrious , and conscient ious officer and not given
t o fantas y.
Officer Zamora was noted to be perfectly sober
and somewhat agitat e d over his experience .
Special Agent Byr nes noted four indent at i ons
in the rough gr ound a t t he "sit e" of t he object des cribed
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by Officer Zamora . These depressions appeared regular
in shape, approximately sixteen by six inches rectangular.
Each depression seemed to have been made by an object
going into the earth at an angle from a center line. Each
depression was approximately two inches deep and pushed
some earth to the far side.
Inside the four depressions were three burned
patches of clumps of grass. Other clumps of grass in the
same area appeared not to be disturbed . One burned area
was outside the four depressions.
There were three circular marks in the earth
which were smooth , approximately four inches in diameter
and penetrated in the sandy earth approximately one-eighth
of an inch as if a jar lid had gently been pushed into
the sand .
No other person was noted in the area the night
of April 24 , 1964. No other objects were noted in the
area possibly connected with the incident related by
Officer Zamora .
So far as could be noted , there were no houses
or inhabited dwellings in the area or in sight of the area.

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y 8 , 1964

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SOCORRO, HBW
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APRIL 24 , 1964

Special Agent D. Arthur Byrnes , Jr ., Federal
Buroau of Investigation , stationed at Albuquerque , New
xico, vas at Socorro , New .:.bX1co, and at the State
Police Office there on business late afternoon of
April 24 , 1964 .
At approXimately 5:45 to 5 : 50 P .

u., Nep Lopaz ,

radio operator in the Socorro County Sheriff ' s Office ,
located about thirty foot dO'WD the hall frOJ.1 the f tate

Polico Office , came into the state Police Office .
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Police , that he had just received a radio call from Offic er

Lonnie Zamor,a to come to an aroa about one mile southwest
The call was in rela tion to sot1e unl:nown
objec t whic h "landed and has tak&n off . " A.gent nyrnes
finished his work in the State Police Office o.t focorro
at approximately 6 : 00 P . M., April 24 , 1964 , and thereafter proceeded to the site
~e Officer z ora,
Socorro Couuty Undersheriff Jim Lue kie , Sergeant . s .
Chavez , and Officer Ted Jordan, New Uexico State Police ,
were assembled .
of focorro .

It may be noted that i t has been the observation
of Agent !lyrnes that Officer Zamora, known intimately for
approximately five years , is well regarded as a sober ,
industrious , and conscientious officer and not give:ii
to 'f11ntasy .
Officer Zamora was noted ~o be perfectly sober
end somewhat agitated over bis experience .
S~ial Agent Byrnes noted four indentations
in the rough ground at the "site" of the object described

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• by o.tficar Zamora.

These depressions appeared regular

1n sha~ , approximately sixteen by six inches recta.QgUl&r.
Each de~ession seemed to have beon made by an object

going into the earth at an angle from a centor line . Each
de~eBsion was approx1.ma.tely two 1ncbee deep and wsbed

some earth to the far side.

Inside the four deprese1ons woro threo burned
patches of clumps of grass .

Other clumps ot grase- in the

same area appeared not to be disturbed .
was outside the four de~essions .

One burned area.

There were tbreo circu lar marks in the eartli
which wore smooth , approximately four inches in diameter
and penetrated 1n the sandy earth approX1.mately one◄ ig)lth
of aw inch a.a if a jar lid had gentlJ 'been P\l&hed 1nto
tho sand.
No other person was noted in the area the niaht
of April 24, 1964. No othor objects were notod ln the
area possibly connected with the incident related tiy

Officer Zamora.

So for as could be no'ted , there wer$ no houses
or inhabited dwellincs in the area or in sight of the area .

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UNIDENTIFIED FLYI~ OBJECT
MEXICO
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SOCORRO, NE\'/

The following data were obtained from Officer
Lonnie Zamora, Police Department 1 Socorro, New Mexico ,
the night of April 24, 1964, and early morning , April 25,
1964 , as related by Officer Zamora .
Lonnie Zamora, 606 Reservoir Street , Socorro,
New t~xico , 835-1134 , Officer Socorro Police Department
about five years , office phone 835- 0941 , now on 2:00 P. M.
to 10:00 P . M. shift .
About 5:45 P . M. , April 24 , 1964 , while in
Socorro 2 Police Car (1964 Pontiac white) started to chase
a car due south from west side of Courthouse .

Car was

apparently speeding , and was about three blocks in front .
At point on Old Rodeo Street, (extension of Park Street
south) , near George Morillo residence (about one- half mile
south of Spring Street) .

The chased car was going straight

ahead toward rodeo grounds .

Car chased was a new black

Chevrolet, (it might have been Floyd Reynolds ' boy , Vivian ,
about 17).

Chased car still about three blocks ahead .

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Lonnie alone.
At this time heard a roar and saw a flame in the
sky to the southwest some distance away--possibly a half
mile or a mile.

Came to mind that a dynamite shack in that

area had blown up .

Decided to abandon the chase, and to

check on the flame.

The flame was bluish and sort of orange

too.

Could not tell size of flame.

flame, slowly descending.

Sort of motionless

Was still driving the police car

and could not pay too much attention to the flame.
a narrow type of flame.

It was

It was like a "stream down"-- a

funnel type--narrower at top than at bottom .
three degrees or so in width--not wide.

Flame possibly

The flame was

possibly a mile south of Socorro , in isolated area.
The flame about twice as wide at bottom as top,
and about four times as high as top was wide .

Did not

notice any object at top, did not note if top of flame was
level.

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Sun was to west and did not help vision.

sun glasses over pres cription glasses.

Had green

Could not

see bottom of flame because it was behind the hill .
No smoke noted.
dust?

Noted some "commotion" at bottom-­

Possibly from windy day--wind was blowing hard .

Clear

sunny sky otherwise--just a few clouds scattered over area.

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Noise was a roar, not a blast.

Not like a jet.

Changed from high frequency to low frequency and then
stopped.

Roar lasted possibly ten seconds--was going towards

it at that time on the rough gravel road.
as long as heard the sound .
recall.

Saw flame about

Flame same color as best as

Sound distinctly from high to low until it disappeared .

Both car windows were down.

No other spectators noted--no

traffic except the car in front--and car in front might have
heard it but possibly did not see it because car in front
was too close to hill in front, to see the flame.
After the roar and flame, did not note anything,
while going up the somewhat steep rough hill toward the
flame site .

Got up about half way first time, wheels started

skidding, roar still going on, had to back down and try twice
again before made the hill.

Hill about sixty feet long, fairly

s tee p and with loose gravel and rock.

While beginning third

time, noise and flame not noted.
After got to top, traveled slowly on the gravel
road westwardly .

Noted nothing for awhile, for possibly

ten or fifteen seconds , went slow , looking around for the
dynamite shack--did not recall exactly where the dynamite
shack was.

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Suddenly noted a shiny type object to south
about 150 to 200 yards .
glance, stopped.
upside down .

It was off the road.

At first

It looked, at first, like a car turned

Thought some kids might have turned over .

Saw two people in white coveralls very close to the object .
One of these persons seemed to turn and look straight at
my car and seemed startled--seemed to quickly jump somewhat.
When I first saw the object , (when I thought it
might be a car), I saw what appeared to be two legs of
some type from the object to the ground .

At the time, I

didn't pay much attention to what it was--1 thought it was
an accident--! saw the two persons .
to the two "legs?" .

I didn 't pay attention

The two "legs" were at the bottom

of the object , slanted outwards to the ground.

The object

might have been about th"ee and a half feet from the ground
at that time .

I just glanced at it.

At this time I started moving my car towards them
quickly, with idea· to help.
couple seconds.

Had stopped about only a

Object was like aluminum--it was whitish

against the mesa background , but not chrome .
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Seemed like

in shape and I at first glance took it to be an

overturned white car.

Car appeared turned up like standing

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on radiator or on trunk, at this first glance.
The only time I saw these two persons was when I
had stopped, for possibly two seconds or so, to glance at
the object.

I don't recall noting any particular shape

or possibly any hats or headgear .

These persons appeared

normal in shape--but possibly they were small adults or
large kids .
Then paid attention to road while drove towards scene.
Radioed to sheriff ' s office, "Socorro 2 to Socorro, possible
10-44 (accident); I ' ll be 10-6 (busy) out of the car checking
the car down in the arroyo . "
Stopped car, was .still talking on radio, started
to get out, mike fell down, reached back to put up mike,
then replaced radio mike in slot, got out of car and turned
to go down to where knew the object (car) was .
AP my mike fell, I got out of car, at scene area,
I heard about two or three loud "thumps , " iike someone
possibly hammering or s hutting a door or doors hard.
"thumps" were possibly a second or less apart.
just before the roar.

These

This was

The· persons were not seen when I got

up to the scene area .

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Hardly turned around from car when heard roar,
(was not exactly a blast), very loud roar--at that close
was real loud.

Not like a jet--knows what jets sound like.

started low frequency quickly, then roar rose in frequency
(higher tone) and in loudness--from loud to very loud.
same time as roar saw flame .

At

Flame was under the object.

Object was starting to go straight up--slowly up .

Object

slowly rose straight up.

Flame was light blue and at bottom

was sort of orange color.

From this angle, saw what might

be the side of object (not end, as first noted) .
to describe flame.

Difficult

Thought , from roar, it might blow up.

Flame might have come from underside of object, at middle,
possibly a four feet area--very rough guess.

Can not

describe flame further except blue and orange.

No smoke,

except dust in immediate area.
As soon as saw flame and heard roar, turned away,
ran away from object but did turn head several times towards
object.

Bumped leg on car--back fender area.

southwest .

Car facing

Glasses fell to ground , left them there.

Ran

to north--car between him and object.
Object was C::;>
windows or doors.
ground.

in shape .

It was smo oth--no

As roar started, it was still on or near

Noted red lettering of some type, like
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Insignia was about two and one-half feet high and about
two feet wide , guess.

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Was in middle of object , like

Object still like aluminum-white .

After fell by car and glasses fell off , kept
running to north with car between me and object .
back couple of times.

Glanced

Noted object to rise to about level

of car, about twenty to twenty-five feet, guess--took I
guess about six seconds when object started t o rise and I
glanced back.

I ran I guess about half way to where I

ducked down--about fifty feet from the car is where I ducked
down, just over edge of hill .

I guess I had run about

twenty-five feet when I glanced back and saw the object about
level with the car and it appeared about directly over the
place where it rose from.
I was still running and I jumped just over the
hill--1 stopped because I did not hear the roar.

I was

scared of the roar, and I had planned to continue running
down the hill .

I turned around toward the object and at

same time put my head towards ground , covering my face with
my arms .

Being that there was no roar, I looked up, and I

saw the object going away from me, in a southwest direction .
When the roar stopped , heard a sharp tone whine from high
tone to low tone .

At end of roar was this whine and the

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whine lasted maybe a second .
silence about the object .

Then there was complete

That's when I lifted up my head

and saw the object going away from me.
any closer to me.

It did not come

It appeared to go in a straight line

and at same height--possibly ten to fifteen feet from ground,
and it cleared the dynamite shack by about three feet .

Shack

about eight feet high.

It

Object was traveling very fast .

seemed to rise up and take off immediately across country.
I ran back to my car and as I ran back, I kept an eye on the
object.

I picked up my glasses , (I left the sunglasses on

the ground), got into the car, and radioed to Nep Lopez ,
radio operator, to "look out the window, to see if you could
see..an object."

He asked, ''What is it?"

looks like a balloon . "

I answered, "It

I don't know if he saw it .

If Nep

looked out his window, which faces north, he couldn't have
seen it.

I did not tell him at the moment which window to

look out of.
As I was calling Nep , I could still see the object.
The object seemed to lift up slowly , and to "get small" in
the distance very fast.

It seemed to just clear the Box

Canyon or Six Mile Canyon Mountain .

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went over the mountain .

It had no flame whatsoever as it

was traveling over the ground , and no smoke or noise .
Can t t tell how long saw object second time (the
"close" time) , · possibly twenty seconds-- just a guess- -from
time got out of car, glanced at object , ran from object ,
jumped over edge of hill, then got back to car-and radioed
as object disappeared .
Just before Sergeant Chavez got to scene , I got
my pen and drew a picture of the insignia on the object .
Feeling in good health .

Last drink--two or thr ee

beers--was over a month ago .

Noted no odors .

Noted no

sounds other than described .

Gave directions to Nep Lopez

at radio and to Sergeant M. S. Chavez to get there .

Went

down to where the object had been and I noted the br ush was
burning in several places .

At that time, I heard Sergeant

Chaves, (New Mexico State Police at Socorro), calling me
on radio for my location, and I returned to my car , told
him he was "looking at me . "

Then Sergeant Chavez came up ,

asked me what the trouble was , because I was sweating and
he told me I was white , very pale .

I asked the Sergeant

to see what I saw , and that was the burning brush .
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Sergeant Chavez and I went to the spot, and Sergeant
Chavez pointed out the tracks .

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UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

Albuquerque: Uow JeXico

y s . 1964

In Reply, Please Refer to
File No.

UNIDENTIFIED FLYilli <EJECT
SCCOBRO,

• XJCO

1

APRIL 24, 1964

Tho following data wero obtained from iO.rficer
xico ,

I.Dxmie Zaxaora, Police Department, Socorro, Now

tbe night of April 24 , 1964 , and early morning , April 25 ,

1964, as related b)' Officer Zamora.
LOuie Zamora, 606 £osarwir street , Socorro,

Nev

xlco , 835-1134 , Officer Socorro Police Depart

nt

about f:lvo years , office p!aono 835-0941, now on 2 : 00 P .

•

to 10:00 P. . shift .
About 5:45 P .

. , A~il 24, 1964 , while 1D

Socorro 2 Police Car (1964 Pontiac white) startod to chaso
a car duo south from west oida ot Courtbouse .

Car was

apparentl.y speeding , and t1as about tbree blocl:s ln front .
At point on 014 Rodeo Street , (o:ttension of Pm.:'.k

treet

south) , near George Morillo rootdonce (about ono-hall mile
south of

pr±uu street) .

The chased car was coillC straight

ue black

ahead toward rodeo grounds .

C01" chased was

Cbevrol.$t , (it might have

n Floyd Reynolds • boy , Vivlan ,

about 17) .

ChMod car stil1 about three bloclm aboad .
This' ·loc.111ent contains M ither recorn,mn1dations
.., eonclu1ien1 of any kind.
It is the propertr
~, the Flt. •~ is a loM to your age ncy: it and/ or
1h cellleflh ue not to be distributed outside you·,

..enc,.

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area bad b1awn :qp.

cbeck OIi
too.

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Jiiil fluia.

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Tbi :llale 4W'U blili.Sb and 90l"t of o r ~

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flmli , slow~

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car

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b •

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1am ....

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top,

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YM ltoo

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It was oft 'tb8 roact.

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a backgrouml ,
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abOUt no

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two ie-i Yidilt . . . . . •

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dcl1At at ob .at . liJiait

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~.._.. w aoirth wttb car

t.e .

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...... - fall of.I , - ~
ob,:Je10t .

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back ~ l i t of HaN .

Roted Obj.ct 'to rt• to about lew'l

a:r, a.boUt tnn

~-lift ,Wt , ...--'M>ak t

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I raa ii ~ 1'bolR ball 1'19 it

gla..,., :Dack.
UU.I~

lad I

n. ob~t dartN 1:

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~abOl1t :tut:, ~. .t uma ti.. c .... 18 ~ x dua:1184

dollll , ~•t 0119S" . _ of

tweilty-!ive teit When 1

about
bi object 'About

.uual,,GU

level wlth ti. car Md ¼'t ~ uon 4b"9otlj ONr tbe
piac. irbere :l.t l'ON fr,m.

I .... et111 TUDDi~ iD4
hi1J.-.i-l stop

•CartKI of

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down thit hill.
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• • ~ - objec't

saot hiNir
.4 oalli...-1&

~illil ~t 1111Y beM : t ~

1111 , . . .

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tbe

roar .

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to OGQtit&'la l'\Ullli:Qs

- ~ tlli
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t ~ •t
ace •1th
,, aDd 1

• iJa a ~ t dinlctiGa .

Wbu the r ~ atop~. be.a• ~harp tone•~ traa a:gh

:tone m low tODe.

At em of roar . . . tb.la Wine Ul4 the

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Y1siae hiiiNd 1!lli1bll a - - ­

eilanoe ~ t tbit ~eot .

Tba't' • •liea I lifted up .., Mad

It 414 DOt COM.

aliCl .,., the obJect SoiDS n a y , ~ - ·

lt i N > ~ to go 1A a atra.glal UDt
i:Qd at .... b91sllt-~ib11. t4IJl ;to lltteu feot f.Nlll ~ #

alld it .cJAtlz'ed tJae ~ w ahilick J;IJ aboiat tJree t . .t .

t c..t lllsh.

.i;out

ObJ

tM11111ra to rtse up Dd ttlk8

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ate~ acrcn couattjr.

k , I apt aa n. cm :ti.

I pi.eked up aq K

Wt tbe ~las

OD

ndlOld w Ha!) ~

-tbe ground) , got :uato

r:adlo oppr-ator , to .,
objtqt . ''

n

.,.~ ""' :tillrt .

to rq car eat

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Sback

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wlDda, to see H you could

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l'll'bat: u, it?''

I aan-- , "'It

•t Jaiolr l'f ba ea.w it .

a bal

If N9p

_ _ out 111• wlildc:IW ~ -.Id.ch 'taoee __.th , be caulda' t ·baw,
I did

11 bua at the - - -·

,rlU,ob · ~ to

look out ot.
I • • e&lliaC

, I cou14 aii11 s..

M Pl:aj~t •

n. obJ

to lttt gp slaw!)', and to ''Gift Sl1&11" u

:the dlal

fast~

It s. .11ec1 to Juet cliir -tbe l,ox

c ~ or Sia ma c ~ ~ -

Jt c l i ~ •

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..aat 0...- 1be JIIIOUQtaa. I~ had DO .fUalil Ybatsoewa- M ~1:
• • :txravelu_as OW# Die s;i-OUDd, :...i illl:> eaoJai or nouse.

Call 't tell how lOlW . . object eeooad tille (ta
'!el;oile.. itU.> • 1)01tidblJ .iWlfaity ,-CODda~-~uat a UUIN~ml
ti.Ila eot out Of car, sl.ano4i4 at dlject, ran fl"m ob.;t.ct,
j1lllipe4 o,,_. tdP ~ .:bill, ~ gqt baCJc ~o CR aJMl ndloed
M

Object~.

Juilt t>e:fore Se,aeut Chavez p t to sow, I got
!lflY. pen aud 'drtnr a piot.ur.a of 'tbe UlliliPia oa tbe object.

1"9elt..s 111 sooil . . .1u.

IAiit dt-SnJ&--two or t...-e

Hot.I _, Odore.
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other 'tbllll deacr!.becl.

Noted IIO

Gaw directlGDS to Dip I o ~

at ridio Md : t o ~ 11. e. Chaws to a.t ~ . 'lent
don to wbu'e :thi object
~ in N~al

.a W.n i1Uld I OONd tbe ,.._h ftS

plac•-.

:&t l:ba.1 ts..., t

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Cha,,.., '1irR Ma:S.co state ~lice at Bocorro), cal.11~ . .
on ridio ifor ay lOcat:lcm, and I a-.1:m'Jllld :to . , car, told
Jhia be,... 0 looldnc at - · T l

ulr.ed •
bit told -

Tbin ~ Cbavez cw up,

what tbe ti'oublo waa, bicllUIN I

I • • •hiie, ~ paJa.

wu nea:tiq ...i

I •lrlficl tbo ~ t

to _,. wbat I ea• --1 ;t;liat was tba buhaini brush.

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