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Chicago, July 6 (U.Pj.-A Catho• FBI oftice ~:iid he hadn't lw:3rd
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~ - d yet about the d1,{' lmt that an offi~pnes~ at Gnfton, Wis., sa1 cial ,•f!~rl might be a.!Jj~ce.
tonight th a 1·ound, ffl'e~sc.l 1he flying discs ha, e been rewiilch..,.m1g
,e nneo-Y'tlw-Tll'l'i:tcr• po1·tcd "~een'' by pers,ms ill 30
ious \'Jlyi:n!t u rs:-l'ra'd'_:-crnstred States. l>ltt Brasky's disc was the
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oldln 7frer the ffw.ral found-if that is whal wa· found .
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he 1) . Jo~eph; ~raskY of St. after a military pl:ine made 1111
J seplfi! t hm·ch at Grafton_. 45 unsuccessful speed oash in an a\•
1 Hes ,,c ·th of :\lilwaukce, said _he tempt to track uo\\ t one o( the!
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swishing ~nd wlurnng discs and the Army and scit'i\fo;LSI
(11oise ~hi~ morning. A second later.l 50ught to ascerta111 \\hether coM'·
he 1,:ud, he hea1·d a thud and alto-coast l'cporls a icut the d1sc,1mild explosion.
zooming lb.rough t:1e sky were fact
He in\'estigaled and found a or fancy.
~heel metal disc !\bout 18 inches in Army planes scoured the northdiameter, resembling a circularlwest Pacific skies for them without
saw blade.
success today and one "eyewitness"
•·Tlte object ,-till was warm,1 even reported ha, illf. seen one of
weighed about four or five pounds the disc~ take off in Arizona. A
and was about one eighth of an St. Louis railroad man exhibited
inch thick," he said.
some paper "discs·• he ~aiil he had
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, inch in diamete1· in tbe middle o(
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the disc, he said, and in the open- The flymg saucers which ha,·e
Ing were •·gadget~ and some been reported ~}timming tlu·ough
wires.''
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The priest ~aid l\e did not know l200 mile!I have elucled the usual\ i { his disco~ery. were important \lJ keen eye of radar.
a • whethe1•. 1t ~ugllt be an _e1ab- Capt. Tom Bi·own of the Army
,rate p1·achcal Joke. He s~hc Air Forces public relations st f
:md nQiilled the 'FBI or"Jii~,,.d.,
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we e nr.,w,.e~ t- whole business may be an orUcal
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,tness accounts came a new ~enes -~.
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cations Service had reported ate i comment~ and «-xplanatiuns, but illusion.
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•·At a~r .distance .,,1~1ch 1~ close
yestHday that ,o far IL~ rada.r most or them were tinged with a
scopes throughout the country slight tendency to laugh off the to thr l11111l of ho,~ far a person
ca11 ~ee," hi' ,uote, "~11 obJ.~cl,s
have been .unable to. pick up any lwhole thing.
stra11ge obJecls In ~ltgbt.
Dr. Winfred Overholser. nation• app, ar round or near!) ~o. I h '
And in the Pacific Northwest- ally known psychiatrist and super• law of sight covers bolh smi:11
where most of the fl~-happy plat-lintendent of St. Elizabetbs Hos- h I \ 5 seen nearby and large
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ters have been r.eportid-the Ai·mylpital here, said it "has some of the t g
has radar equipment which ~an earmarks of being national hys- at gre •l di st an<" •
pierct> fog and darkness and pick teria."
"Tht> ont> out~tand111g fact 11hout
up objects in the sky 200 miles "Everytime someone come, up ,•irtually all the ~au,·ers is that
a,, ay.
with a sea-!<erpent ~ton·." said Dr.
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.t.Hn so. B10\\n acknowledged Overholser, "other~ with vivid they ha
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that the Air Jo'orces had decided imal(inations are .sure they ha,1' seemed merely round and flat.
"there's something to thi!!" andlscen the same thing.
That de~<'l'iption fit~ exactly with
"The critical faculty ln m~n, thel the trick~ that eyes play. 'l'hi~
had been ehe~klng It f~r 10 days.
"And we still haven t the i.llght- Ja~t one he recewed, 1s shll nott . .
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est idea what they could be," he vei-v well developed. Scratc-h the tnckme~s varies. with d_lfference!
surface and you find the s~e mas• in weather an_d hghlmg.
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And a ne\\ wrinkle-the rcp~rt.· hysteria w~ich prrdominat,ed dur- 1 Howe~er, !'.ova Ha.rt. St. L~.ub
ed landing of a fleet of eight bktm- ing thP witchcraft scare. Some ,mechanic who was 11 amed du1 ing
ming platters-was reported from , persons are quite ready to scr service in the war to spot all types
of aircraft, yesterday offered a
Idaho in full view of 10 per~ons. A. thing~ and follow beliefs."
Dishman. Idaho housewife, said Dr. Overholser •aid that ,1 hen minute descdption of one o( the
she and 0U1e1-s In her party had he made his roun<l~ or the mental flying patterns whkh he claimed he (
seen the saucer~ land on a moun- patient, yesterday at St. F.liza- ~aw flying at an altitude oC about!
tainside near Sl. Maries, Idaho. I beths not a one cC1mmented on the 300 feet.
Reporter Rees One
he said they came into view at flying saucers sto•y.
a extreme ~pee.d, suddenly slowed. "I think they may ~e a little
He described it a~ clrcular with
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then "fluttered like leaves to skepticaf." he adUl d.
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a ribbed framework and silver
to~1·eve~. Dr. O~•erl_1olser ~aid h~ gray in color. He said it appear('d
t ground.''
The mysterious part wai; th w . 11 t trymg to dmni~s the mattei to have a motor with a propeller
we couldn't se~ them after th
a a Joke ''becaus..i the.re arc ~0 attached in the center and that It
landed." she said. •·we coul_d ,t
any strange thi~!{~ gomg ,?n to- kept. turning Jike an airplane do•
them flutter down lnto the limb.
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ing a slow roll.
:,et \\e couldn't see that they did
~f l, Alexander P. de Sever••y. \ \.It hough ma n y explanations
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no d aircrart designer, told 'he ha~·e been offered. none has bel'~
anything to the trees."
She said she hoped to hike h~to Po l hy telephone from New ork ciwinciug. A Los Angeles news
the \lmbe1· tomorrow and search th unhl he ,l'e, a flying ~aucer p. per quoted an unnamed nuclea
fo1• the objects which sh~ said were he •·wouldn't like to •pa~~ judg- p ysicist as saying the silveq- di~c
saucer-shaped but resemoled wash"
r ulled from e:,pcnments m th.
.. ransmutation o( a,omic energy.''
tubs more than disks and were ment.
"about the size o[ a five-room
Ile agreed wi I h Dr'.' OverholRer '\ Thi~ report wa\ rapidly herded
house."
that mu<'h H not all of the story into the hoax .::olumn by Davld
Lilieuthal. chairman of the Atomic
Locally. Hazen Kennedy of 2615 may be because uf hysteria.
Uh st. ne. reported he had seen
"After all,. he said •·we are ' Energy Commi~s,on.. an.d ~everal
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. ' . . ,. prominent atomic &c1ent1sts,
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one passing over the :-;ortheast
section of the city at about 8:40 mo~·e or less an hflile~1e~l Nation. Starr l'xpects Word
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l\~aJor de Sever~l<y n1d 1t was p~s- 1 Loui~ E. Staie, national comThis would be the first one re- s1ble that the per~ons who claim ~ mandei· or the Vetrran~ of 1''ore1g11
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ported O\'er the DiSlrict, alt ugh to have seen the aerial dis<.'s have Wars, announced Saturday at Co•
others have been repo1·tcd oYer
nearby Maryland.
instead glimpsed the exhaust of )umb~;• Ohio. that .~e ~vas expettmg
mo~entari\y rnformat1on
Kennedy, who has 125 hours jet-propelled planCF
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flymg timeAi~sFa. s u tenhi p1 o d\'
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~aid he belle\'ed the saucer be as part of an expeumenl, but
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had seen was traveling at we '
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over" 1000 miles an hour at an "I don't think the Government in the Pa~ifie 1'.orth~est \~here
al\itude o! between 1200 and 1500 would fire th em so pr~nuscuousl>·· most of the saucers have been re!hey would lest them. 111 one spot. ported, but added that hi~ trip
fert.
"The best way T can describe It," I III an 1so_lated ar~a. like the) did tllere was planned two months
ago, long before the ,aucers scare.
~aid Kennedy, "was that it looked 1the a\omic bomb,,'
like an orange lamp bulb without )laJ. Gen. Curt1~ E. Le)~ay. who General Spaatz is expected back in
the socket. It was going faster than a~ Deputy Chief of Air Staff for 'J'ashington late tomorrow.
Rescar~h and Deveio~ment would
:'.\luroc Army Ail· Field in Callany jet, plane I've eve1· seen."
11 Ha,zerstown, ~id.. Mrs. J\taj
kno_w 1f lbe ~aucers mvolv.cd. ex- i'urnia had a P-80 je~ fighter stanw
n Ganoe, 30, ~aid sl1e had ~e<' perunents \11th gmded 1nlss1les, Lig by, and the National Guard
e of the discs, racin& in 2-1 commented:
<'rcgon had prepart'd six regul r
"Whatever these people have fighters tn give chase shou :I
•mation at "lenific speed," fro
e1· backporch. ''They sounded Ii' seen it hasn't been anyth111~ re- sai•ccn be reported nearby, •
a faraway ll'ain,'' she said.
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August 5, 1947

Director of Intelligence
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Attention:

Colonel L. R. Forney, Chief, Security Group

John Edgar Hoover - Director, Federal Bureau ot Investigation
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The "flying saucer" that fell
near 2319 Himebaugh Avenue
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but "ashes from somebody's pipe
dream."
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So says Dr. C. L. Kenny, head
of the chemistry department at
the Creighton College of Dentistry. He had two students analyze the ashes. They found sodium, Potassium, iron, alumin..im, carbonate, suiphate and I.Ill•
bul'~_carbon, he said.
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- Dear Sir:
Have you seen one of the mysterious "Saucers"?
What did it look like?
Do you think these strange, celestial manifestations are harbingers of a better day?
Do you believe it means that a new and revolutionary
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Will it make your life brighter, happier, more
useful?
We believe one of these startling discs is on its
way to you.

Then the secret will be out.

The Combined and Amalgamated Committee
of Sky-Scanners, Disc Decipherers and
New-Product Introducers.

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At 10:45 a.m., July?, 1947, I talked to SAC Johnson of the
Milwaukee Office concerning the United Press item appeari~ in the
Washington Post for Mond~, July 7, with reference to a flying disc
or flying sau
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Press between the hours 1:00 and 6:00 a.m. tod~ had made inquiry 01£
him as to whether anything had been reported to the Milwaukee Offic e,
He declined to comment. He stated as a matter of fact the priest haa
not made aey contact with him, and he learned from the Associated Press
that the priest was intoxicated and as far as the Associated Press was
concerned they were not releasing the story because all that· was involved
was a circular saw. Mr. Johnson stated the Milwaukee Sentinel apparently
sent the report out and that they handled United Press service. He stated
a photograph of the priest was in this morning's paper holding a circular
saw which apparently covers the body of the priest from arm pit to arm pit.
Attached to the saw are several wires and two small tubes described as
about three inches long and one inch in diameter. The news i tern in the
Milwaukee Sentinel indicates it was believed some prankster had thrO\'fn it
into the yard, perhaps with a firecracker attached. Mr. Johnson stated the
Milwaukee Sentinel had stated the priest would make a report of this matter
today to the Milwaukee Office. I instructed SAC Johnson in the event the
priest made a report to furnish details of the report immediately, but in
view of the nature of the information in his possession, no inquiry should
be conducted at the present.

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t, n in hm!' of pear{•
1s b" p1a, mg- ll,lh rnch other, tba
to us 11 tllt(ll fnnn 1110- s1 b
to u tine of 10,00o nnil w:n they jumped around.
s.
imp11,;nnment ot ]O rears, H<'~ordHer hnsband nnd Lee C'h:n·er,
n11111g· contest,,
is not hi11g in~· In 1\ssistant LTnite<l S i nlPS shot II box of .22 rifle b•tllr>ts
n Onrni,,, whn, in ,19 lli, 11011 D1,;t rirt Att01·1wr .Ioseph .W ('ash. without a.ny rfl'c>C'I on t he ohje(•ts.
1 tr1nl pig
with ai1 (•s~ay
II tla pre~P11t 111,rster~ ot tlyMrs. Va lentine said n eighbor,} in the SrR1!'<-R0thuck •m1-1 in~ d1,h an, ,·01111P••ted "itlt 1aing ll€'!-!O families thouf,ht the
\[!nin, in 1-'ehruary HJU, he dar or a:mdPi m1,,1lr experi111l!nls,
wo1ld was comJng t-0 an end ,
,d n <-!Ill' rn 1hr I-Iallelt-,·illr thr lnw mtg-ht upply, hp sa id.
!Ind began praying as the balls
('lnh Show, nnd out ol' 12
Th" lan ap1,li!'s whelh1·r thC'
of fire gamboled overhead.
nwarrlP1( Ji,, took f1 I th infm mu.lion i, r1 J,,:ised 11r•1•1denl
~I rs.
LorPJh
'-hradN-,
Bi~
ally, "through ~ross negligC'nrP, · · F'.1Hinc:s reportrd ,,he saw II fi,,y
,. Hrenek 1,; ~,1eet Jlomr,'s or •• 11 ith intent to injurp the C- red hall str('aking overhead la;t
nistrrss.
rnfrd States or nirl \OIJlP rorP1g n nig ht.
natioll," aecordini:: to lhP ;H·t.
J frs. Marian Heed, fam1 wife,
Thi' ,\tomir hnPrc,· .Act or J()46 ro1111d what sh" bclieYed was p.nt
rrnv1drs eYen ,tri, !Pr pt"ltaltic;; ol II fl) ing <li.,k. ft landed in hc·r
for n•Yca!i·ng info rmation, J\lr. ba<'k yard while s he was hangill~
Cash b,llrl . P nblie• Law 58!5 ol' !lie onr thr clothe<; vester da v 11l'!er8c,·rnt~·-Ninth Congress pn idc::. noon. 8he adn;ittPd she wa<,
death or life impri~onm!'nt, niter frightrnPrl. She iies<',-ibed it ti ~ a
due pror-e"s of lil\\, for disl'lo~ing rom1d piece ot tinfoil Pight inchatom,c• 1nformatio11 with intr·nt to <'S wi,ie, ;;corc!IC'd or burni>d a•
in,iurc t he CnitPd ~tates.
1·01mf! tlw NlgPs. Both sides Wl're
For 11r<'idental disclo,mn•,- a shiny, hut one sirlP w·as m.nkcd
, flU<' of 11p to lt\20.000 rtllll llll
with hlnck. <.t1•w•ilPel line; 11 n•nll'prir,onmcnt 11p to 20 ~-r,ns are !t-r•lll<'h ap111 I. She sa1tl th(!· t.il'prm·iclerl, Mr. Cash pointP<l out. foil cll'oppc>d ctrnight dowll from
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1k11m scflhnll teams r-ho1Y:.-<l
She lifted it with a stick, 1ntt
of good pla~ mg 111 th<' g.1 1w•,
it in a tin rnn. and !lrove, fi,·e
rl nt the Bnllrlng- 8t:ul111111
mill's to nunte1·, 20 milt•;; , omhwrst of Shermnn. Score,, crowd<!d
•:• 'cam,. org11ni,;e<l hi' ,·nrabont lo ::;ep ii.
lll! chant,, 111d l'"U~Cl·IIS
in
oca
a
on
At \JpJissa, Collin County, .Mrs
, 111 I' ~ompo ~ t ot tJ11•111l>rr, j
.. \la,w Killian an<l .Mrs. Kay Craft
1natPnr "tnnding- who ha,•n 1
--- ..~ -rrporte<l seeing- a stran~e object
~mnc prniu11~ rx pcriener with
A gu ,<>line t t·,ul!'t' truck 01 th~ at 8 :40 p. m. :vestcrday.
I ] pf or :whr.ol h.111 pl:t\ int~- Trxn~ r'on,;ohdai rd Transpot't Co.
Ch:nl"s Calhoun, and his f:tthr\, 1·, uime ol' tlH' pla\c1·.s 1311 into a hcaYy rnpe 11vniJ1t 111 Pr, \V. .T. Calhoun, prominent
hown '<ttr h ''"Jl"rt h.tll h 0 1\1 of Rolrnn 'i; ~eiTi'<'P i:;tntHm Grn~ ,on County farmer,. said
lhng and q,ortsman,;h• p thut \I'Jn:I,,_,, rlorng "'"111f' damagP to t hl'v '-IIW a <li~k ye;;terday near
hard 1 ,. h l' ill•\·p l he,· :n " 1101 th,· stnl 11.n and mn,·e to tht Sh(•rninn.
, j trnrk.
- -- -<- <- ,.••wna1.. nnl er l'1•lC" '1lw
chnl'Jt, "ho ,1 q.:.inJ?~d • th• l>l'
Tfip 1r11rk w:i, r<'m•ni-:- from
::rfl <'frtamh dcing th<·ir ·town. alon:::- "·et c-:-iand. nnrl
f• to,nn<l Jnm·irl,nc- H'tn•ntinn turnerl mto tll!' i;lation. ,\,, ti)('
lilil's for t he ymmg- prop[p of dJ'i t·e'I' ('Ill t h!' <•n h hR<'k to s \\ ini~
rmnmnnity, ao,l aiP to hP t br I r11i lf'r into pn.-1tiou, th<• !'!lb
ph111eutcd •011 thPir fuw 1,mk. skidd,•d into tl•r i:;feel pip~ roof
er 'lnrr!'hants or e•onrNn., who ~npport on the r11~l~1 of thn I r1H'k.
t n oi·gamzc• a !(>am m•iy rc>ml111~ it r:?ustrlPrabl.,. The
C'uc-ro has finally- produced n s
n ull t he plll'ti<•ulars r:, 0 111 trnC'k tl:;1•lf ~n ti <' l'rd a bent hum­ first flying d is,•.
ph ~Jr.\[a"trr nf the F irPslonc per and a ~nu1slw l feodrr
A
It wn~ reportl'rl b? Mrs. r'. W .
'>11 Lott Strpet.
or ltom gn~ohuf• pump din•l'lly belunrl the Haak of 410 <:;to<'kdale str eet, ntid
H. l. )hClenr 'on at L:i"k 's UJ>ll!!ht was net damag-c<l by the hot h ,he and hPr hni!band saw it.
o~infr 8 tcre on \\"r,;;t Grnnd. cra:;h.
However, ::\fr,,. Haak ·s flynlg
ho.vs 01· mPn " ishing- to piny
,.__ - - - disr is no partir11la r myster y l o
om, of thr> fra'lls mav make
hC'r. fthr thi•nk,; she k nOWi ,l11s r.
lication at ,hP J'irC'~to~e Stor 0 •
1.-hat causcJ it.
k's, Hohan 's ,;;:;c1 viee Station,
It l\l.ts simply a reflection froni
Hamilton's .Jr11 rlr1· StorP, clean 11irplane, shC' said.
din,e- on the pl11~·r;· 's choi<'r of
Rit ting on the 11orch with her
earn to plav with. Thl're i~
hn"-band about 4 p:m. Run<la~',
plrnt:, ot re>o111 for r,001
---)Ir,. Haak said she h(•a1·,I a
l r~. so anynnr intPie,ted is
'l'hr I.ions Clnh Im-; annonnr P<l ~trange noise from the sk~·. and.
"d lo contart one of t h,'llf' tki1 al its rrg·nlar noon n1r Pti11~ lookPd np. 80011 nu air planp ,,,1u1e
ns.
Tuc~duy, .Tnly l .'\lh, it wi ll pre- into i-irw, high in 1he cl oud~. I t
·
'>f'l1t
to LcC' Pan:-111,11111 of Hontc was , r1T small h 11t p lai nlr <li-.)11J•; 0 11e ::ame 1~ 1
ce 1111 1",
.
1 1~
rrrnablc as a plane, i:he -;11id. h
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t
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l
tl
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tlw
phqn" for f. ht• Outsta11elm2:
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• ht
Tl
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Fann•
1· for th" \[tcl<tle Gnattnh1pr was roming from thp east.
" OJH av ma:
, w 11en
w 1• 1r,•- B .
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80011 it turnfd nor t h, a nd ,i,1~t
~l •
·11 t "Ilg'I~ WI-11I I11C
aslll 801I Ccn,P 11·:•llon Du,t :·1ct.
II(' , o r,, 11'1
zalr>, Dr. l'E'('J'l'I,. Tue• da\'
'rhp plaq11r 1s gi1· '11 1'11<'11 : ('Ill' aftrr tha t a p:->1·fr~t disc 11•11,-, \·i,;11t f,Qek · , \ 0<''R!t' ,,(nrc will to thr• llu·,,wr lr<nn Parh ('<>11 <'l'­ ihlP snmr di:<fan<'e from wh,,..,~
y, h11t then· npp'•nent h:i- not 1 ,·atiun <listrirt "ho_ has rontnhut­ tl•e pl11110 disappenred' into the
n n11 111r d ,·rt. ,\ L,o, on 'fht1,·s-1 eel 1110.,t to thr ,oil ronsP1Tali.01i clo11<ls.
11i·•hi th~ F in• f1111p tt-nm 11ill r roj,•rff, i11 t he pa rli rular d ii,t 1irt.
Tlw disc Hppt·art>c1 bl'i<:1·t and
in 7,111y a !! 1)11( hut no ll'illll Th(• 1\1 .,nl is spn11 01 c,1 b,\' II 1111 111- n•1'.\ ,1h·prr. It apptal·od •o 1',,
hrrn state,l to oppo <' t hun brr of 01~am;:at,ons, amon~ th m small<'r in s1w tlun1 an orl.in"l:'
( l ,. l riday night of' this \\!•Pk, the I u,n,- Cluh, ot
the> Yan1111:s ,tl'0 rtng wh•·el of a C'.ll. hlr~.
,·mw 1. di ); , plnvrcl, hul t !Jp tow 11 .,. :,:;, 11rr t II<' I.ion., ,lo play 1111 H n:tk rP pcrtcd . It ~•·emefl to b~
n, ,,ho ,1il l p;•rtiripatc- Jwv,· arlivP pn rl in sponsorina- t his 11 '' flon I i ng' ' acr,,;;, t he he·1Y"lls.
hl'!'II Ji.,trd ,rt.
ward, tl,c !oral dnh is g-i, c•n lhP
<.;lJp <·alk<l hrr husban,I •~
:t:prh
il, ~1• ot pn•:sf'lll in:.: the• plaqu~ teuti(•ll to it. Th<'r both "!I" i:.
ht•sr• i::-ames 11ill start ahm,l
to )Ir. Pargrnann.
i\ I!Pr about fh <· H~OtHh th()
1',I< h 1.ight. I·,\ 1•1:,:011(' i~ I 11
HP]l l l'SC'll tatl\'('~ or thr Soil ('on dis,· wa, gon<". T h plane a nd th'.l
l to c·omc ancl f'hcrr for his
-,errnt io11 Rerv i,·" " ill be> Jtr,'s!'III so1111d rli-.appru1'Pd
I, :,{ o Jdt.,is~i< 11 \\ ill hr 1•h11 r
to mnk,, ,;horl C'!'ll!!JiltnlatotY 11ml
-'In,. Haak i~ ,·onvincNl th:'!
rxplanatory ~pf1t'r•hPs on th;, gn­ llyin;.• !Hmc·er ,, ·1s reflecl~•d f ..oll\
i11!! ol the• an1111al award.
the airplane. This theory al,o h:,s
beeu n,h ancecl h,v othei·s.

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11. l};n i~. I iii f reprr.s,•11t ;,1 Han t\11 lon10 Hocial S1·•·111Tie·P, " iJJ hp i11 Yoak um nl
tv Hal! at n::10 a .111 .. ,,·(•<!• July 23, l!H7, for the

p•irpos,• of rr<'Pi,·i11~ 1·lai111s and
Tlw flying· ,Ji,;c· my~tcry h11s the
,lisr·n~~in~ O(rl .\~<· :111,f S111:nH>1·,; j •1ati'.m in a. ditlH'r ''.·ith H'port;
ln,m1111u·,· with nil who wish to r·n111rn~ trom all s<·d10ns 011 the
confild h1111.
s t ra n~(• ohjects. ;\I n;. Hank 's <'XJh11 is will 110t ht• ah!<' f o 1'11r- pla'nal iou i~ a:; n•asonablr as any
ni,-,h iulonuation e·m1('tT11i11g Olcl y<-1 ]Hit fortl1. :ind may he the
Age A:s~i:stauce pcn:siou,,.
[ ::.olutiou to the '' viwuouwuou, ''

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Norman Thomas
<lt)SEPH J. l.U.LEC,
,
debate about Kussia,
1
Editor-Manager
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¥ " ' - . . t ) ~ ::i~ ~
mas quest10ns gav~
!.argc;,t g-ui.rameed circulation of,1 John L. Lewis calls
the,
.ny :publication in tbis section. new labor law a •·slave law" I
"T seriously ques
.:erald Est. - - - - - -1807 ' T
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b
I ested in world domina
·.:.'in,es Est. - - - - - -18\12 j 'he ~ig _ruS t s_ Iiad u nd0u t- ing to rehabilitate the
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••
• d at ect O<:t . .,z5, 1 9,;,o
edly. the same idea about .the 1I, says Wallace, J·ust \'/Ill
,,or,;-;on
Wh
E:~osc,fiption Ra,,e ___ -$2.50 1 anti trust laws when first I
Pr,blisl,ed cvny Tuesday and Fri- introduced. And what are ths I'J
at hadppehnctdt
"ay i ·rung
810 310 L 0 t' ~•
...ungary, an w a
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u ur.
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trusts
comnared
to
the
harm
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. I coun ry, .,,10uld be b a
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C11~cr:.:ng Lavll.ca an.,
v1tt , the umons Clill do with tJ1eir what the Reds
• say' 1
Cou11tieo.
strikes?
"And, on:!e agai
!\1ALEC PUBLISHING CO.

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..;r.ter~;t as sec"nd-class ma.L:ter at~
!'lie Post Cft:ce, Yoakum, Texas, '
mder the Act of March 3, HW'l. t

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If the aew labor laws ference hetween the
of Hitler Gennany,
are "slave .:aw~", so are
in g.'.>vernment struc'
WIIEN' ADVERTISING crncu- J the anti-trust laws and aa.y
·w hat Hitler stc
LA'I',OH OOUNTS - TRY THE 1 0U1e1· laws fior the p1·-0tecHERALD-Tl.MES.
simi;le,
and far mon
___ ........_ _ _
I ticn ot people agarllSt aage. But when Russia
buses by any gl'Oup. So far the same.
POLITICAL
, the people were utterly
_L\.NNOUNCEMENTS ! helpless against the lab0tr
As to Russian tac
For Sana.tor, 18th Dist.
they
don't difier grea
, power.
When
independence is
JOHN J. BELL
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and maintained in -Gr,ee
l Such labor dictators as ing to Wallace's reasor
MOTIRIS ROBERTS
- - - - - - - - - - - - - , Lewis, Petrillo, others, have
~~~ 1 a far gr.eater power to harm
But since the Rec
SPECIALIZE tlus country than the British mocracy, it's very sim1
to suit the purpose. E,
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king ever had. This is juSt Moscow's fifth column,
\Vhisldes, Wines
I as unfolerable today
as it
was then.
. Wallace talks of h,
, a1,d Gins
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s1stance and sincere pl1
R. :: • DARLING
I La.st Sunday was, for the '- peor
le " How ca n. W a 11
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P ACKJ~GE STORE British, a nat10nal 'Day of
Russia will take ,
1
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~ra.!!ftm£!1Xlrfi:a:n:i~ni:ltii. ,P·~~~r '1') ~ kini wjth Prima without changing in ti
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I Minister Attlee
and other 1Anct now can 11e 'Lct.:i'll. -.
-•
• govel'nment leade:'s went to when there cannot be
Chas. Micek
St. Paul's Cathedral to pr~y less, ~~iceles~, and cut
Your WATKINS
with the natwn for help m any Inendsh1p reach t
City Dealer
' these ominous times.
1
Wallace is not sc
Phone 599-W
"' ~ .,.
d I polities evidently mea1
Not s.o tong ago Englau
helping to divide Ame1
, went tlmough the most most.
I de.sperate sb·uggle iu her·
r.nll
• lnil.ill ' wlrnie history. The peace
~ - - - - ~ - j! is not yet establishe.1 ani
e\'cn a greatel' mcnac~
by
threatens the people ,of
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Eagland and elsein,here to
new home of firesafe j whom f.reedom m€a',1S so
j much. In a great da.nge1·
brave pe~~•f,~a to G-0d.
The ohLst • C';<'n;l~•t t1·

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Here, -too many do notl rnrcn,! in the rcrent co1
tectural style or floor plan fitg I fully realize today's danger.· a mm 1-ton rnodd. The ,
your family requirements will _We suffered comparatively 1rll(•k was lrnilt o'n Oct,
have lpng~r life, lower main- I little and the H.ed threa,t ~,91~. i1_1 ~'htnokt's C
tenance cost and greater fire• seems to be distant. But 'altrornw p!Hnt.
~ safety if it has concrete walls : that does not minimize it. . Tiu, tl'llek i·, owned aud
~d subftoors and a firesafe 'W need to ra~e the menac-9' bv "\fi-. l.(-- Ju, A. :Storey,
I _e
.
I .1fo11t;n1a; and tlic tntr:v ,,
roof. Le~ 'u~ tell you how to I with the same seriousness. mitted thn,n"h Pionu 1.
get such a -house bui\t now • the British ~eople with their; the Cbcnolc:; dealer in tl
using our quality te~t.ed leaders manifested last Sun- whic-h 1 locatcJ in om S.1
day. For, we cannot c~cape 1I~ ity 7.c11e.
concrete bto.::k.
F.&
Concrete
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It cannot be ~aid anymore i11·il! be i;res;nt('d to ,\fr.

Products
Yoakum. Texas
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that the stories of the "fly- b:,- Ch<• 1·rolet :.\fotol' DiYisi,
ino· disks" is mec·e fiction. :liore 1 ha 11 l3flU? Ch
!!'----t..::,.ffll"-"'l::;,u,
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tYncks WNC entcrcJ trow 1
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I One disk was found by a tions ol' thP nation, ;.id
~lG i':l. t?i' •• J.le.11 - Phcne 831 I ~elly man, near. Houston. On j hroad pnhli,: iutt rc,;t . . I'.ntl
1t was a warnmg about its dudr-d mor(> tl1a 11 50 191D
DR. (.~ R. TUBBS I military secret and that the ~till iu orr\atio11, rnan~ d
I Army Air Force at Spokane, 1\\'ere mau_n1artnred. on_ly ,
v·er~dnarian
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So the mystmious disks !ht1i!y of C'lwnoll't ln:d,~
Resid~v•-f. !'.none 749-W
are not messen?ns from
1\-J.ars
,or some other star.
Ou~.:,
'foxas J;
Nor are they m i s s i I e s \1
t1tu:u:a:u:e:u:n:nxu:n:u:e:u:a:s:n:u:11:u:8:I~ \ which Red Russia is already showering upon us.
They
our own secrets
She'll Never Forget with are
which o u r armed
forces are experimeD'ti,11.
THIS GIFT
What proµels them? How
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It is a French paper in
I Paris that claims that America has a far more destruc-1
tive bomb than any ever in-1
• vented before. In on~ blow it
could destzoy all of Paric;;
or Moscow. This is also confirmed by Robert l\1. Hutchins of the University of
Chicago, familiar with what
goes on here. We can thank
See Us For
only the good P~·oviden(•e
QUALITY MERCTE' AJ\TnTSE -- that this immense power is in I
EXPF RT WATCH
our hands. ,, r ,,,
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HAlVIILTON
Like Russians": "Offici'ally
religion is still regarded as
JEWELRY
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a
deplorable
superstition,
Yoakum
l!i and .church-goers can never
~ ~ l : t ~ hope to gain admittance to
the Communist Pa1:t,y.''

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Lawyer
Offices now in
Yoakum National
Bank Building
Phone 50

Yet what do you find in
this country'? -:Even certain church leaders ihave
only praise fnr the very
rule which exchtdes a
Christian, but they con~
demn their fellow Christians, instead of the Reds.

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Speaking at Castelgandolfo, his
as summer home, Pius XII asserted
an that the world today has men who
on ignore not only the Church, but the
.ed "very rudiments of religion itself;"
in. men who see no evil in evil deeds
,rd and lust and would spurn "the
.ve primary norms of morals anct jusras tice;" "there are cynics who would
16. deride holy things and weak men
1at who would permit these offenses
m- to pass. . . ."
tin
Despite this turmoil, His Holian ness said, "there are great rays
;he of hope and fields white with harin vest for those who labor to bring
;he Christ to the world." He stressed
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toward~ Hloliill and"'a,kppei,.,ed,
she said. It was flying high and
appeared Illuminated, according to
Mrs. Hoffman.
"It looked like a small meat platter," Mrs. Hoffman asserted.
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Glenn Rowden of Detroit claimed
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he saw a "saucer," about 50 inches
Tries to Call FBiMan
in diameter, over Billy Mitchell field
Priest Hears a 'Ban~,,.,..._
at 10:05 p.m. when he alighted from
Father Bra.sky said he did not an airplane. He said it was in sight
Discovers a C j r CU} a r bother to show the disk to any of his for 90 seconds.
parishioners Sunday. He tried to
William Humphrey, who Ii v es
telephone an FBI agent whom he with his wife in a qUO!l.!let hut at
knows. but was unable to reach him 3148 s. 20th st., telephoned police
Dl.sks
Sunday, he added. Asked whether at 9 p.m. Sunday that ...,..._ , -~,.
it could have been the work of a Humphrey had seen a slightly illupractical
joker,b 1
Father
Picture 011 Picture Page
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know" re- minated disk which appeared to fa!J
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near Pulaski
high school.
he "what is it?" which Father
The di.sk, apparently of steel, •had Mrs.
Humphrey
said Monday
that

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eph Bra.sky said he found early a one and three-eighth inch' hole in her husband tried unsuccessfully, to
nday on the lawn of St. Joseph's the center. Through it ran a few photograph the disk.
wires. To each end of the cluster
Catholic church in Grafton may be of wires was attached what looked
Changed Colors, He Says
p ust another gadget to add to Fa-, like a small condenser about three Erwin Rottman, 1328 N. 19th i · /
ther Bra.sky's already sizable col- inches long. The condcnserlike ob- claimed he saw three of them flyi I
lection.
jects were wrapped in black tape through the air In a northweste y
Those who saw it Sunday said which still was
d sticky. The
h diskd.was
t direction at 6 p.m. Sunday. Th
greasy an
so m e w a t
tr y. turned from orange to gold to silv r
"what is It?" was a circular saw Stamped on it was: "Approved, bet~e disappearing, be said.
blade with a few wires attached. Dunlap."
Reports came also from JanesFather Bruky, who said he knew .of
Father Brasky declined to part ville, where Mr. and Mrs. Alva Sieno sawmills in the area, would not with the disk. He showed a num8e1• vert and Mr. and Mrs. Howard Roth
claim it,was a "flying saucer" when of items in his trinket collection. reporte.d seeing a flying disk about
he called newspapermen to his All of them had something to do 11:35 p.m. Saturday. The Roths
home.
with fishing, Father Brasky's favor- were leaving the Sievert home when
·'It may or may not be one of those ite sport. They included his "bass Sievert saw it, according to Roth.
Iflying disks that have been report- bottles," beer bottles with the head It appeared to be several thousand
ail over the country," he said. of a fish - and a fish pole from feet up and about 10 miles away,
I t's just call it a 'what is it?'"
Manila which folds up into a cane. Roth said. ·He described It as vague{eanwhile, in Milwaukee and When opened, it extends to lZ feet. Jy resembling the moon and as haver points In Wisconsin, sev.
"I use it in reaching folks w.'!',....•.,..egular motion in a countersons reported seeing the "fl'y~'.'l"in"."g~~c~a!!'n' t be touched with a 10 foot pole," clockwise, elongated orbit. It apsaucers." Father Brasky's disk, Father Bra.sky quipped.
peared to Roth to be moving faster
however, was the only case here in
Others Report "Saucers"
than an airplane. He said it was
which the "landing" of a "saucer"
yellow on Its face. but when it
was reported.
Father Bra.sky also passed out turned it looked sliver.
11d
copies of h is recent publication,
Roth said that the four of them
Hears "Ba.ng," Fi s Disk
"Fish Tales."
viewed the disk for 10 minutes.
Father Bra.sky gave the follow"I'm going to revise this thing,"
ing account of how he found the ob- he expIa1ned.
ve got some new
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ject. a steel plate 19 inches in di-I and better tales to put in it."
"It fluttered around, faded out
a.meter about an eighth of an inch There were other reports around and came back again. and once,·
thick ~nd with saw teeth.
Milwaukee and Wisconsin of "fly- just stopped and bung there fo
"I usually get up about 5 a.m. on ing saucers." Mrs. Anthony Hoff- about two minutes," Roth said. "Tb ,
Sundays. I was at the front door man, 3410 W. Layton av., said she last time we saw it, it had a ve
of my house about to take my dog and her husband saw one at
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out for a ;alk, when I heard a p.m. Su n d a y flying toward B~i~ll~y,,__
'bang!' like a big firecrac~er.. I Mitchell field from t~e northwest.
stepped outside and found this ..,-=,--n It neared the field, 1t veered 1
on the church lawn.
"Although the grass was still wet
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too ot to pick up. 1 noticed the
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ball had been knocked off one
of e lightning rods on the church,
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Buzz in State Reports of Flying Saucers
B y H OWARD W . BLAKESLEE
A!soclated Press Science Editor
Disk Found by a Priest New
York, N. Y.-The flying
saucers may be explained by cerIs Circular Saw; Others tain laws of eyesight.
All objects appear r o u n d or
Seen by Milwaukeeans nearly
so at any distance close to

the limit of how far a person can
see.
It the objects are seen by renoticeable tail. When it disapflected light, as in most cases re•
peared entirely, it just popped out." ported, they are almost certain to
Janesville police reported a tele• be round, and if the reflections
phone call from a Dick Thompson, are sunlight then the sizes reportwho said he saw flying disks about ed are those which would be expected from distant light reflec•
tlons.
12:15 a.m. Sunday.
Descriptions of vit'tually all the
t Oshkosh, Mrs. L. A. Davis rep ted that she and her husband had saucers as round and flat fit exs hted one of the mysterious disks actly with the tricks that eyes
.,. izzing over the city at 6:t5 p.m. play. This trickiness varies with
differences in weather and light•
Ing.
Sunday.
1 She said they were driving on a This writer ha.s seen flying sauctown road six miles west of Osh- ers over Long I sland sound, not
kosh, beaded east toward the city, only this year but In previous
when they first sighted the object years. They were round, bright
"flying very fast and very high."
and moving fast. But they were
At first, she said, It looked like an no m ystery because th e y were
airplane and then loomed larger and light reflected from the bodies of
larger until it "appeared as big as airplan es that s o on identified
the sun."
themselves by changing course
Stop, Ca,r, Disk Vanishes
and coming near enough to be
seen
Her husband stopped the car BO.,..._
_distinctly.
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that they could get a •tter look at
the disk, which appeared round and
silvery, but by the time they got out
of the car the object bad dis•
appeared, she said.
At Green Bay, Eugene Le Plant
reported that he and hill 12 year old
son, Duane, bad seen a rapidly moving silver ball or disk about 6:30
p.m. Wednesday while working In
bis garden on the western edge of
the city. Le Plant said he saw the
object silhouetted against a dark
cloud to the north and that he a i
h"~ on watched it for three or to r
mi utcs while it moved away t o tt
no hwest Le Plant said he cou
no estimate the altitude or d
tance, but that it "definitely was n ot
an airplane."
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Many descriptions of m o v e •
ments of the flying saucers fit
with the common maneuvers of
airplanes, s I n g I y or in groups.
Some of the maneuvering report•
ed, which took saucers out of sight
and back into sight again, resembles what can be seen w hi I e
watching distant airplanes.
W hether planes arc guided, pllotless or jct, they all would look
the same at great distances.

Mirages, Traveler Says
Philadelphia, P a. -(JP)- Dr. Aurel
Aczel, editor of a H ungarian language newspaper, expressed belief
that the !lying sau,·ers were mirages-possibly circularly distort•
ed reflections of real airplanes
many miles away. A world-wide
traveler, Dr. Aczel said:
"Years ago I have seen similar
things on the Egyptian desert and
on the Buszta (Hungarian plain).
At sea I have also seen miragt of
ships known to be a great dist ce
away.
"In July and August, and s etimes even in June, atmosp ric
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these Sunday photos while reports came fro everywhere and everyone that
the saucers were everywhere. Top left, a movie amera is fitted to a P-51 fi&hter
plane at Portland, Ore., as Oregon national guard planes arc made ready to chase
the disks. Lower, Mrs. Walter Johnson (rlght) of Spokane, Wash., and her chil~z
n •osc and t,11 how lh,y ,aw th, " " " " land on a mountatn,;d, ;n td,ho Td
sappear. Right, is Father Joseph Brasky of St. Joseph's Catholic churct at
Grafton, Wis., with the disk he reported struck his church early Sunday. It
turned out that th'\! d~~k was a prankster made projectile, featuring a Dunlop circular saw blade. Note that something apparently took a glass ball off one of the
lightning rods. A. whole lot of Mllwaukeet s reported that they saw the saucers
traveling past Sunday nigh t.
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Sten1n 36 State • Flrst sighted June 25 and
greeted generally with scornful
Jet Fighters
laughs, the objects have been reported every day since by observAlerted
ers In 36 states. Most of the ob­

First, published reports of the
Pbenon 1 ■ 111 occurred-June '25.
Kenneth Arnold, Boise, Ida.,
businessman pilot, told of seeing
nine of the discs flying In formation at 1,200 miles an hour over
the Cascade Mountains In Washington,

jects were reported seen July 4.
A few were reported yesterday.
SAN FRANCISCO, July 6-UPI
Such competent observers as
SEEN Bl' 200
- Milltary aircraft hunted the
airline pilots said they had seen
Arnold's account was taken
es over Pacific Coast states the totally unexplained discs or
lightly.
Various explanations
ay for sight of the mysterious saucers, larger than aircraft and
were offered- "reflections," "per] ylng saucers" that for 12 days
1 islstent vision," "snow blindness.''
:fii!'i:as i-, "loose formation" at
ve puzzled the entire country.
Soon afterward other individuals-In New Me:x:ico, Missouri,
Early reports of results were high speed.
David Lilienthal, chairman of
California and other !.tales-renegative.
ported they also had seen the
Five P-51s of the Oregon Na• the Atomic Energy Commission,
flying objects.
Sllld
they
had
nothing
to
do
with
tlonal Guard cruised over the
Then on Independence Day 200
Cascade Mountains oC Washing• atom!<. experiments, and Army
persons in one group •and 60 In
another saw them In Idaho. Hunton-the area where the strange and Navy officials also entered
dreds of others In Oregon, Washobjects first were reported sight­ posltlv& disclaimers.
ington and other western sites
ed. A sixth circled over Portland,
Newspaper stories quoting an
reported seeing them.
In constant rad.Jo contact with the unidentlfied California Institute
July 4 also brought firs reother five. All carried photo• of Technology scientist as saying
ports of the flying discs
om
graphic equipment.
the phenomena mlgh~ have someeast of the Mississippi.
nee
Col. G. R. Dodson, command•
• then they have been reported seen
Ing, described their flight as & thing to do with experiments in
n widely separated sections of
"routine patrol," but said they "transmutation of atomJc energy"
he country-in 33 states In all.
had been Instructed to watch !or
used a brief sensation late yesthe flying discs.
'Must Be Insane•
rday. The institute quickly det Manhattan Beach, Calif., A.
LONDON, July 6-UP)-Don't
ed the report.
McKelvey took a Mustanl
mention those flying saucers on
Reports generally agreed that
ter plane up above Van Nuys
• this side of the Atlantic unless
the
flying
objects
were
round
or
two hours he cruised at 35•
you're prepared for an argument
feet, but "didn't i.ee a thing:
oval. Estimates of their speed
about your sanity.
ranged from about 300 to 1,200
Gen. <'arl Spaatz, commandan
Maybe they have been seen by
of the Army Air Forces, was on a miles an hour. They were desober citizens over a vast area
Pacific Northwest fishing trip. scribed as flying with an unduof the United States, but Europe
He denied knowing anything lating motion at heights of 10,000
won't believe in them until someabout the flying discs - or ot feet and less. Some described
body lassoes one and has It photothem
as
glowing,
or
luminous.
plans to use AAF planes to look
graphed by Frank Sinatra, the
for them.
British ambassador and five
'PROPELLER IN CENTER'
Supreme Court justices.
JET 1''IGHTER SET
Nova Hart, Sl Louis mechanic
"America's reply to the ~och
who was trained during service
"I've been out of touch with
ss monster," chortled today's
in the war to spot all types of
things for four or five days,"
nday dispatch, referring 10
he said.
aircraft, said he saw one of the
italn's hoariest tall story- t e
rang objects near Pattonville
Louis E. Starr, national comrpent that is "seen" romping n
esterday. It was flying at 300
mander-In-chief ol the Veterans
~ otland's Loch Ness every ti e
et, he said.
of Foreign Wars, yesterday In Cothe tourist trade needs a shot n
He described it as circular, with
lumbus, 0., said he understood
the arm.
a Tibbed framework and silver
Spaatz had a "group out right
now" looking for discs.
gray In color. Hart said it appeared to have a motor with a
At Muroc Army Air Field In
propeller attached In the center
California a P-80 jet fighter stood
and It kept turning like an airready to take off the moment any
flying saucers are sighted Jn that
plane doing a slow roll.
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both official and scientific co! - •
ments, but Capt. Tom Brown t
t~Alr Forces Public Relatlo s
st ff In Washington ackno ed ed the Air Forces had decided
"t re's something to t his" and
ha been checking up on It for
10 days.

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--•-••"'"a,dio announcement ufti'.t 61S"wlf!C"\i Ciut> dusting plane was dowere flying over Lewiston Idaho
ing in the air at da,;,,a bH i-.;Iay.
Sunday sent' hundreds into thei;
yards for a look. Weatherman Louis , It was the first time any noise had
' been attributed to flying saucers.
Krezak said the objects were movJ. U. Watts, jr., Darlington (S. C.)
ing eastward with the prevailing
attorney, said he saw an army purwind and probably were •~reed seedR.
sui~ plane chasing a V-formatio\l of
Three air transport pilots agreed.
flying saucers at 250 miles an hour
Searchlights 011 Olouds
3,000 feet high. However, no pilot
reported such a chase.
Birmingham radio station was
Jee • deluged with more th~n 400 call in
Saw One With Legs

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saw fluorescent balls circling o er
ICago Oman pots the city and clearly outlined aga st
5hne W.It h Legs
near-by mountains. A carnival at
Alabaster, Ala., was playing search-

lights on cloud wisps.
n argument raged at Lodi, Calif.,
Army pilots were ready Monday o r the cause of a spectacular glow
for another air search for the mys­ • the sky and a roar shortly before
terious "flying saucers" now report­ lectrical power went off. Mrs. W.
ed seen in 39 states and parts of C. Smith said she heard a noise "like
Canada as practical jokesters added
to the confusion.
Equipped with telescopic camGive 'Em Room
eras, 11 army planes searched the
Pacific northwest Sunday without
Newport News, Va.- Peninsula
finding any trace of the flying disks airport here is taking no chance$
which had been reported over scores with flying saucers. Pilots report•
of communities the preceding two
ing Monday to take out planes
days. At Sioux Falls, S. D., a na- ' found this notice on the bulletin
tional guard plane already in the air board: ''Two thousand feet verwas ordered to investigate a silvery I tical and horizontal clearance redisk with a short tail which Gregory quired between aircraft operatZimmer said he saw shoot across
ing from this field and any fly•
the heavens. The pilot found nothing saucers."
ing but empty sky.
The army "camera patrol" over
four motored bomber" just before
the Cascade mountains Sunday included eight P-51 pursuit ships an the lights went off at dawn. Erving
Newcomb of the Pacific Gas & Elec•
three A-26 bombers.
tric Co. offered the explanation that
Illusions Or Jokes
a low flying crop dusting plane
There was growing belief that the probably had struck a power lin
concentrated aerial search would and b u r n e d out a transforme
show the saucers to be optical illu­ However, no planes were reporte
sions or the work of practical j~ke­ damaged and no one could explain
stcrs magnified by aroused imaginations.
A number of "disks" whirled over
rooftops in East St. Louis, Ill., Sunday. J. T. Hartley, a locomotive eneer, gathered some of them up
d f o u n d they were made of
p essed white paper, 11 inches in
meter and with a two inch hole
ln the center. Railroad workers
said they looked like locomotive
packing washers.
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Me an t .i m e, authorities were
plagued with reports that bordered
on the fantastic. An excited Chicago woman reported that she had
seen a flying saucer with legs. "I
wrs standing on my porch and I
th ught for sure it was coming right
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leorge Kuger of Denver said h
8 , a flying disk with an America
fl
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Francis Howell, Te m p e, Ariz.,
claimed he saw a saucer two feet
in diameter disappear behind a row
of trees near his home. When he
ru~hed to inspect it, he said, the flat,
thm, alumlnumlike disk took off at
a "high r a t e of speed" toward
Phoenix, nine miles away.
Mrs. Walter Johnson returned to
Spokane, Wash., after a vacation
near St. Maries, Idaho, and after
reading newspaper reports of the
flying saucers said she and several
others had seen speeding shiny objects "as big as a four or five room
house" disappear into the forest
covered mountains.
he first. of the saucers over New
Y rk State was reported by Mrs.
K nneth Wohley of Rochester,f,.
Y who said she and her husb d
saw an object "about the size of n
ordinary saucer" flying above
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New Jersey residents said they I
"thought" they saw flying disks
over Palisades PaM and ~ear:by
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Bergenfield Sunday night.
Skeptical scientists recalled the
mysterious "rockets" seen over Swe.
den last year. Eighty per cent of
the "ghost rockets'' proved to be
meteors, and Swedish officials said
the others could be discounted as
pure imagination.
Scientists asserted that the objects in order to be seen clearly at
10,000 feet-the level at which most
of the saucers have been reportedwould have to be 20 feet in diameter,
would require a large mass of metal,
would be more conspicuous at night
and would be seen by a far greater
ber of persons.
r. J. S. Nassau, director of the
Mn" & Swu,y
al
th Case Institute ot Techn gy at
Cleveland, said he was incl ed to
"think the reports urc fanci s."
Capt. Tom Brown, army air force
spokesman at Washington, said the
art was trying to run the reports
to arth.
' e1re not dismissing the posslbil y that there's something to it,"
. he aid, "and we're not dismissing
Ithe possibility that it's all a hoax."

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~te ftawilan first !lsked where
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which he received " for very dangerou11 work."
He s aid he had been assigned
t o go over the route of the radioactive cloud nea r Lake Baka!
(or B aykal ) a nd pick up dead
animals.

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\LOS ANGELES, July 6-(Speclal)-Federal agents today Investigated a Jetter to the Exami•
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atom-powered planes resembling
the "flying saucers."
A top flight atomic scientist to
whom the Examiner referred the
letter said It was " not all non•
i.en, e," and suggested the matter
be turned over to the FBI.
The letter writer !laid he got
the Information from an officer
aboard a Russian tanker recently
Los Angeles harbor.

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Arctic, where birds, animals and
t\·en worms were kllled.
The plane11, as described by the
Rus~lan to the w riter, are only
18 Inches thick, With a kidney!haped outline and no propellors.
The pilot lle11 on hl11 stomach
ftnd Is 11.rtt!lclally cooled agal! t
the beat developed by air ! ctlon.
"The outer 11urface I'! hight
ollshed,'' the Russian sal
Both upper and lower surfa ces
re convex, like a gia n t lens,
he lilting force ls an entirely
diffe rent principle found about
10 years ago among unpublls hed
papers of a Russian chemist.
" Ener gy Is required only for
t'llmblng, but no energy Is needed f or support when the airplane goes along the earth's
gra,•ltational contour lines."
The writer of t he si ange let•
er said he met the R ssla n of•
ICl'r in Wilmington a n because
.e wan ted to hear abo Russia,
wiled him to dinner.

"They loaded a few 11ma ll
s hips wit h a ll kinds of anima ls
a nd directed t hf' cloud over
the m," the writer said.
"During t his experime nt, a
viole nt s torm blew the cloud
f ar nor t h Into the tundra, but
before It dissipa ted It destroyed
all life on Its way.
"The cloud may be cont rolled
f rom la nd, from a pla ne or
f r om a robot-piloted 'leader.'
'! I unders ta nd It, the control
based on electr o-magnetic
ave~ and the cloud has t wo
m1Jonents : T he carrier and
t he killer.''
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Nl!.."'W YORK, J uly 6-{JP)-Certain laws of human eyesight will explain much of what has been described about
the flying saucers reported from nearly all par ts of the
United States.
At any distance which Is dose photograph of the oval object
to tpe limit of how far a person taken by Yeoman Frank Ryman
can see, all objects appear round north of Seattle, Wash. The Long
or nearly so. This law of sight Island oval came closer and
covers both small things seen turned Into an airplane.
nearby and large ones at great Planes at great distances tend
distances.
to look round when light Is reRegardless of shape, the ob• fleeted from their sides. Many
ject near the limit of sight looks descriptions of movements of the
round. If the thing is silhouetted flying saucers flt with the comagainst a bright sky, as some of mon maneuvers of airplanes,
the flying saucers have been re- singly or In groups.
ported, then It Is more likely to They flt also with what birds
al Its true shape.
look like, flying at a consldei ble
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distance. However the bird lluslon is not very common.
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VE NO STRUCTURE
the thing Is seen by reflected of the maneuvering repo ted,
light, as In most cases reported, which took saucers out or ght
It is almost certain to be round, and back Into sight again reand if the reflections are sunlight, sembles what can be seen while
then the sizes reported are those watching distance airplanes.
which would be expected from SPEED MYSTERY
distant light reflections.
The one outstanding fact about There Is no explanation for revirtually aJI the saucers Is that ported speeds of 1,000 or more
they ha<.1 no structure - they mlles a n hour. Meteors, although
seemed merely round and flat. they go much faster than t hat,
That description Cits exactly with do not explain It because the
the tricks that eyes play. This saucers mostly appear in daytime
trickiness varies with differences and there are not enough dayIn weather and lighting.
light meteors.
This writer has seen flying Ice crystals forming little round
saucers over Long I sland Sound clouds have been suggested. But
near his home, not only t his year t hese fall to flt In most cases bebut in previous years. They were cause the Ice crystals form at
round, bright and moving tasL
altitudes whlch are higher than
most of the saucers reported.
NOT A MYSTERY
Nothing published in science or
But they were no mystery be- atomic studies gives the slightest
cause they were light reflected clue to flying sfucers unless the
from the bodies of airplanes that objectg are aircraft.
soon identified themselves by One scientist today said that at
cha, lng course and coming near least a lot of saucers are explained by the rorce of suggestion
eno h to be seen distinctly.
L t week this writer also saw which causes a pers,gn to say to
one val flying form which for himself:
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a moment looked exactly llke the
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Other pA!lsengrrs with him also
saw It, he said. He gave the name
of J. W. R'r!den of D•dlt. 1'1!11plte~
So Ing. the 11&ucer was
going at great speed, and waa out
of sight In a few seconds, he
said. Rowden I.a stoppln& at tbe
Pl:tr.a Hotel.
Dli-lC'S HAO TULS
Erwin Rottmrn, 132S ~- 19th
St., said he saw three of them
with tall- flying nol'thwe•t t~
~outhea~t. as he ~tood at N. 18th
a nd W. Vliet Sts. They turned
from golrl to another color and
thtn to ,liver, he said.
Frank Phifer, stopping at the
Maryland Hotel, said he ,aw
three ballii of rlre t:hoot 1 rol!~
Lakt' Michigan 11.t 8:20 last lght,
arlt a mile I rom 1bor1, 1.nd
"gol g at terrlfl<' s peed.''
W at he described u an Illuminated ~aucer was 11een last
night by William Humphrey, 3148
S. 20th St., he ~aid. It was zigzagging directly over the Heil
Co. pl11nt, said Humphrey, and
seemed to land In a wooded area
nearby.

What wa'I rt1,orte-J u a " flying dl,c'' "hlch ..truck a c-hun•b In
Grafton url) ye..tnday turnt'<I out to hf' a rlrcular aw "Ith
hrn i,mall t uhl''I and Nt•veral wlr<'~ attachl'd to It. l•'alht'r Johl'llh
Bra,.k), pa,tor of ~t. J osl'ph'" Church, Grafton, hold~ the ''di~<'"
nd point, to t ht lli;htnln~ rod on thf' church (arrow), \\hlch
1111 ~aid was 11truck by th<' dlsc.
Sonunol Pllolo l)y Ernul Anheuur. ,

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REPORTED IN JANt':~VILLE
Four Janesville re!lldents reported thtY had seen a flying dl~c
Saturday night. They arc Mr.
and Mrs. Al Sievert and Mr and
Mn. Howard Roth.
They saw the disc flying In a
northwe11terly direction r r<> m
Janesvllle at a "tf'rrlflc i.11o-.•d.''
They viewed It ror 20 minute!!. It
was yellow-golden, and seemed to
turn al times to a silvery color.
they stated. An oval flight pattern
was followed. Then, they said,
t.Alls appeared on the disc and
shortly aCterwards It dlsappenred.
John Bo~ch, 4.377 S. Adams St..
Milwaukee, a machinist, Insisted
he saw two flashing saucer11haped objects pass over Billy
tchell Field shortly artl'r midght yesterday. They were ~se
ough so he could cieflnltely ~ ate
ey were not shoot,lng stars, o-:a rplanes, he said, Bosch's h me
ls near the airport.

Oi;7theory wa~ that prank!<te
or belated Fourth oC July eel
disc!<,'' 11trange luminous objects brant!I had attached explosives t
seen l!peedlng \llCrol'!I Ute -ky in the 1!\llW, and sent It skimming
many slates, turned to Wlscon- through U-re air.
Father Brasky said he htard a
Bin yesterday "hen ,everal persw~hlng ndlse and a sizzling at
,son!' reported them at Milwaukee 5 a. m., followed a second later
and Jane1<vllle.
with a. thud and an explosion.
An nclted re:<lde,,t telephoned
My~tery wa!I \lldded to mystery
when Father Joseph Brasky, pas- to Billy Mitchell Field, and said
tor ot St. Joseph's Church at he saw 15 flying saucers, In U
Grafton, Wl!<., reported a mii,l'lle formation, heading north over
hurtled through the air early yes- Granville, at 10:05 p. m. He hung
terday, knocked the ball orr th,:, up beCore his name could be prochurch lfS:htnlng rod, and landed cured.
on the front lnwn.
A passenger abOard a New
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Itlwn11 a large clrculnr saw- Field at 10:05 p. m., told employes
RECORDED
nbo t 16 incttes In diameter-and In the office of Northwest Alr-1
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pick cl It from the lawn.
bobbing up and down over the
T re were wires and two tube!I \ airfield just arter he had alighted ~
auache,1 to It. The tubu were an from the RlaD
Inch In diameter and three Inches
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July 8, 1947

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For the Bureau's information, United Press and Associated
Press telephoned me at my residence about three or four times between
1:00 A. JJ. and 2:30 :\.. M., Jul~,1947. The United Press representative
informed ne that Father JOSE
RASKY had stated on interview by a
Mi.1-rra.ukee Sentinel reporter, o
BILL 1EEKS, (Phonetic) that he,
Father BRASKY, was going to call the FBI concerning the contraption,
,mich apparently was identical with one of the flying discs recently
publicized throughout the country. The United Press representative
desired to lmrn'if if we had any statement to make on the natter. I
infonned him that I had no official comment, other than 11 No Comment. 11
Since I have contacted the United Press representative on
various occasions, I asked him w.hat the actual details were, and he
stated he did not know except that the intervievr of the priest reflected
that a circular saw had been found with some devices attached to it.
The Associated Press called me shortly after the United
Press representative did, and on being advised that I had no comment
to make concerning the story, I asked the Associated Press representative what the actual facts were, and he informed IOO that as far as the
Associated Press was concerned, the facts were that a circular saw had
been found and a story had been obtained from a priest who had been
drinking quite heavily. The Associated Press representative infonned
me that apparently the United Press desired to get a statement from me
denying or affirming that the FBI was investigating the matter. I
informed the Associated Press representative that apparently someone
was suffering under a misinterpretation of any con-anent I had made, and
possibly so?ll3 repoz:;er -rras ~ an e11~ass~ "B,OPP.}Jon if a story had
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in an effort to straighten out the United Press . No reference was
nade to the FBI in the Milwaukee Sentinel article appearing July 7,
1947, but the Milwaukee Journal article, which is attached, referred
to an alleged statement by Father BRASKY that he attempted to get in rA. cJ...
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SUBJECT: Ck.ying

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At 10s45 PM on the evening of July n, 1947, Clerk Pierc-y of the :: ~::a
Washington Field Office called and stated that at t,he im,ttruction Mr.
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l:: ~"';•effect that a "flyinf disc" had just landed in Parker's yard "and the
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a difficult time even getting his name out, and no further detai l could be obtained
from him.
At l0t50 PM I passed the above information on to Captain West, duty of ficer
at 0-2 wio indicat~d he htd also received the same data from another source, md
110uld pass our i nformation along to appropriate army qu.-ters.
Sid Robe!"ts of the AP called at about 10: 55 PM and asked whether t he
Bure~ had received any report on a nnying disc" i n Laurel Maryland. After
checking with Mr. Nichols I told him we had, !"eceived s uch a report and had passed
it on to army authorities.

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SUBJECT:

SAC John.son of the Milwaukee Office called to advise he had
just received a telephone call from Colonel Harry Schafer, Reserve
Officer with the Civilian Air Patrol, Black River Falls, Wisconsin.
Colonel Schafer reported that at 3:30 p. m., July 10, one Sig Hanson,
City Engineer at Black River Falls, Wisconsin, had found a large
17 11 disc which appeared to have been possibly made out of cardboard
painted with silver airplane dope. In the center was a tube and a
small motor with a propellor attached to the side. Colonel Schafer
expressed the opinion that this disc would not be able to fly by
itself. He advised it would be taken to the Air Corps Headquarters.
Colonel ::,chafer advised, however, that Hanson did not want to release
the disc without FBI approval.
I instructed Mr. Johnson to advise the Air Carps officer
to get in touch with Colonel ~cha.fer and tell him he saw no reason for
the Bureau to attempt to secure the release of the material since it
was not in our custody and we had no control. He stated the press was
also calling concerning this matter. I instructed him to make no
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Reference is made to Mr. Howe's memorandum to you
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At 11:55 P.M., July ll, I took a phone call from
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Sergeant Lonis of the Laurel, Maryland, Police Department. S e r g e ~
Lonis said that he had examined the 11 flying disc. 11 He said that it
had been made from a Gulf Oil sign and the top of a garbage can and
had been painted with aluminum paint. It had been recently painted
because the paint was still wet. Attached to it were a dry cell
battery, a flashlight bulb, sor.ie v.ii.res and a buzzer. He asked if
the Bureau was sending anyone out to look at it. I told him that
we vrere not, that we had referred the matter to the Army, and
suggested that he call them.
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Officer at G-2, and passed on to him the infonn.ation f'urnished by
Sergeant Lonis.

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FOJND RISD:BLES A HI GH i\LTI TUDE T:J£:\THER BALLOON UI TH A RADAR
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Doesn't it seeffi wisest for you to forbid papers - (No not forbid - but ask
the co- ooeration of all papers) to keep all news ofthose discs out o~ t~e mms
untfilyou- are sure just vrhat they are & uhere fran .
Seens to us with all the enerri.es we have, even with:..n our borders,
it could be something far more i?:ioortant than may seem at first . I had 2 sons
in this war f.: anotl-ier who over- did for his .~crica - & we do want it really
protected from danger fro::: now on . Enough are dead ~ maimed - '.rith- out l osing out
now as it easily could be . ~-lhy have the papers carried that story if reporters
were nade to see how much more sensible not to report - it excert to the F. B.I .
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found in the back yard of the home next door an object described as follows : kl~
A disc JOi11 in diameter, circular in shape, it is dished like a /"..-..- ~
saucer and actually there is a saucer within a saucer in the manner of "L
cymbals . On one surface there is attached a plastic dome described as about
1411 in diamter and affixed by 8 bolts in a rather rough manner. The bolts
can best be described as similar to stove bolts. On the other surface is
another dome of metal which is gold in color on one ·side and on the inside is
silver in col or, which looks like tin. Through the plastic dome can be observed three tubes similar to radio tubes and there is some wiring. The disc
generally is 1011 thick and at the point where the domes are located about
1411 in thickness. There is an object on it similar to electric coil which
has some type of an arm on it and bears the words "Inspected TS" . Some of
the vnring has been burned off and it looks as though something might be
missing.
Mr. Bannister stated that if this were the work of some prankster
he went to quite a bit of trouble. He stated the press is aware of this
incident. He stated that the -disc had been picked up and vras now at the
Pol ice Department, Twin Falls, Idaho. He was instructed to notify the local
Army authorities of the existence of this disc.

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seen to burst into .thme when it landed. Further, that it had been the cause
of a fire in some woods, t his fire eithe!' in Burbank or possibly in the cit.-.limits of Los Angeles, which Mr. Hood could not be certain. The fire chief
at Burbank had called the resident agent at Burbank and told him he w:>uld
hold the disc for him.

Coincident with the information received from Burbank, the Los Angeles
Office received c~lls from the newspapers requesting information. The newspape:-e
stating they had called the Army Air Force Intelligence who had stated "we are
not interested". According to Mr. Hood, this comment had aroused the newspapers
and they stated they intendt,d to publish this quotation and belabor same in their
firs'tissues. Mr. Hood stated that he had refrained f r om making any statement
to the press other than to admi.t possession of '4n object and that it was being
turned over to military authorities in the morning (this AM), it being Mr. Hood's
opinion that he did not want any quotes in the press and certainly not one to the
effect that we were not interested.

As described to him, Mr. Hood stated that the object was an aluminum
disc about 2 1 in diameter weighing about ten pounds, painted with al uminum paint
and having some sort of a radio tube in the center of the disc. This object was
in possession of the resident agent at Burbank and would be turned over to
military authoritig~ (G- 2) in Los Angeles this morning.
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July 17, 1947

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RECOVERY OF 11-FLilNG DISC"
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.OORTH HOLLYV.00D, CALIFORNIA,
JULY 9, 1947

On the evening of July 9, 1947, a report was received at the Los
Angeles Office that a so-called "flying disc" had landed in the vicinity .of
Radford and Magnolia Streets in North Hollywood, California, the contraption
being briefly described as approximately 30 inches in diameter, all metal,
disc shaped, and having a radio antenna . It was reported to have burst into
flames upon landing. At the time of the report the disc was being held at
the Valley Fire Department in Van Nuys, California.
SA RICHARD D. AUERBACH went to the fire department immediately at
which time it was found that a number of people had gathered including newspaper reporters and photographers who were taking pictures of the disc .
Battalion Fire Chief WALLACE E. NEWCOMB advised Agent that at approximately
10:30 P. M., an unknown woman called on the telephone and excitedly reported
that the disc had dropped into her garden where it began to flame, her
residence being located at 11858 Magnolia Boulevard, North Hollywood. A
fire department truck was sent there and put out the flaming object with the
fire hose, after which the object was taken to the fire station. SA AUERBACH
thereafter arranged to transport the disc to the office.
The device is briefly described as consisting of two convex steel
discs approximately 2 feet in diameter, fused together at the outer edge
and fastened together in the center by a hollow cylindrical connection. A
vertical galvanized iron fin was screwed to the top of the disc, and a short
length of pipe closed at one end ran from the outer circumference into the
interior of the contraption. What appeared to be a radio tube was installed
in the center of the top side. The contraption had a total weight of
appr0ximately 20 pounds.
At the Bureau Office a series of photographs were taken of the
device from various positions, and a set of these photographs are being
forwarded herewith for the Bureau' s inspection and information.

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The "flying di~c" ~hereafter turned over to Major COURTNEY VI.
HEMPSTEAD, A.C . , G-2, F;<Srt Mac
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RECOVERY OF "FLYING DISC" ,
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JULY 9, 1947

On the following day, July 10, 1947, one FRANK v.'"1moWN, 6552
Teesdale Avenue, North Hollywood, reported that on this morning he was at
the North Hollywood Service Station eating at which time there was
considerable talk about the flying disc having been found in the vicinity.
A number of what appeared to be young high school students were present
and were having quite a laugh about the excitement caused by the finding
of the disc. BROWN stated that he received a definite impression that
these young students either had themselves or knew of someone who had been
working for the past two weeks making this "flying disc". BROWN was
unable to furnish the names of any of these young men but identified one
of them who was making the statements as being employed in a Chevron
Service Station at the corner of Victory Boulevard and Whitsett Street.
He described the youngster as about sixteen years of age .
The ~bove information was also furnished to the G-2 Office at
San Pedro, California.

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that so many had reported having seen them that it undoubtedly was not a
figment of the imagination. He said that these discs had been seen on July
1. 1947, in the vicinity of Trail Creek near Sun Vall~ Idaho., by reputable
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For the information of the Bureau this is to advise that on July 7., 1947•
EDWIN M. BAILEY., Jr•• 6 Home Court, Stam.f'ord., Connecticut, appeared at the
Sta.mrord Resident Agent's office and furnished the following informationallr. BAILEY prefaced his remarks by stating that he is a scientist by

occupation and is currently employed at the American Cyanamia Research
Laboratories on West Ma.in Street in Stam.ford, Connecticut., in the ~ice
Division. Mr. BAILEY further indicated that during the war he was employed
at MIT, Cambridge., Massachusetts, in the Radiation Laboratory which Laboratory is connected with the Manhattan Project. BAILEY advised that he is
thirty years of age and is a graduate of the University of Arizona.
Mr. BAILEY stated that the topic of "flying saucers" had caused considerable
comment and concern to the present day scientists and indicated that he himself' had a personal theory concerning the "flying saucers•. Prior to

advancing his own theory., BAILEY remarked that immediately a.rter the conclusion of World War II., a .f'riend of his., RENAT~CHETTI• allegedly obaened
the "flying saucers" from an pbservatory in Milan and Bologna., Italy. He
stated that apparently at that time the "flying saucers" had caused a little
comment in Italy but that after some little publicity they immediately died
out as public interest. Mr. BAILEY stated that it is quite possible that
actually the •tlying saucersw could be radio controlled germ bombs or atom
bombs which are circling 1:he orbit of the earth and 1m.ich could be controlled
by radio and directed to land on any designated target at the specific desire
o.f the agency or country operating the bombs• He stated that one of the
items of interest l'il.ich he personally has observed is the .fact that the
saucers have been observed in Mexico City• New Orleans, Philadelphia., New
York• Boston, Halif'ax, Newfoundland, Paris, Milan., Bologna. and Yugoslavia.
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would be noticed that allot the above-mentioned cities form a
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in line o.f' any path in Vlhich the saucers could be circling.

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PERKIN. one of the owners of Perkin-Elmer Company in Glenbrook•

Connecticut, and had been informed by Mr. PERKIN that his compa.DY is
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missives. This is as strange a one as has come for sbme
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Dear Sir:
Have you seen one of the mysterious "Saucers"?
What did it look like?
Do you think these strange, celestial manifestations are harbingers of a better day?
Do you believe it means that a new and revolutionary
advance is coming?
Will it make your life brighter, happier, more
useful?
We believe one of these startling discs is on its
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:uking t.~ intonation .t'urr.iahed bj ;rou P&1lable to tbat ~rtllm\.

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STATED THAT IF QUESTI ONED BY AUTHORITI ES HE WAS GOING TO SAY I T WAS
A HOAX BECAUSE HE DI D NOT WANT ANY FURTHER TROUBLE OVER THE MATTER .
COMPLETE REPORT NOW EN ROUTE TO BUREAU AMSD , WHICH I NDICATES
PROBABLY CHRI SMAN OR DAHL MADE THE ANONYMOUS PHONE CALL I N THE
HOPE OF BULDING UP THEIR STORY THROUGH PUBLI CITY TO A POI NT WHERE
THEY COULD MAKE A PROF ITABLE DEAL WI TJ~
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confidentially advised that it is possible to release thre:s;r e Ai: Forces have
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these discs would ob:tB.in tremendous speed in their descent ~
earth in an arc . 1:te Anny Air Forces Intelligence has also~nd;~uld decend to the
that the report~ sightings might have been made by subversive in~1efdsome concern
the purpose of;reating a mass hysteria.
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BUREAU BULLETili NO. 42
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You should investigate each instance which is brought to your attention "()
of a sighting of a flying disc in order to ascertain whether or not is is a bona
fide_sightins , an imaginary one or a prank. You should a lso bear in mind that
individuals might report seeing flying discs for various reasons. It is conceivable
that an individual might be desirous of . seeking personal publicity, causing hysteri~
or playing a j?rank.
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to have merit , the teletype should be followed by a letter to the Bureau containing o
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Bureau complete cooperating in these matters and in any instances where they fail to ~
make information avail able to you or make the recovered discs available for your
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on July 9, 1947. General Schulgen indicated to Mr. R~ynolds that the Air Corps
has taken the at t itude that every effort mus t be undertaken in order to run down
and ascerta in whether or not the fiying disks are a fact and, if so, to learn
l~about them. According to General Schulgen, the Air Corps Intelligence a.re
lizing all of their scientists in order t o ascertal~ whether or not such a
nom,non could in fact occur. He stated that this re search is being conducted
~e thought th.at the flying objects might be a celestial phenomenon and with
view that they might be a foreign body mechanically devised and controlled.
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allations have been alerted to run out ea.ch reported sighting to obtain all
ible data to aaaist in this research project. In passing, General Schulgen
ed that an Air Corpe pilot who believed that be saw one of these objects was
r oughly interrogated by General Schulgen and scientists, as well as a ps~I .:hologist, and the pilot wa.e adamant,_. in hie claim the.t he saw a. flying disk.
Oenera.1 Schulgen advised Mr. Reynolds tha~ the possibility exists that
the first reported eightinge of the so-c~lled fiying disks wero fallac i ous and
prompted by ind iTiduals seeking pers onal publicity, or were reported for political
reasons. Re stated the.t if thl's wa.s so. subsequent sightings might be the roault
of a mass hysteria . Re pointed out that the thoU&ht exists that the first reported.
sightings might have been by individUAls of Communist sympathies with the view to
, causing hysteria and fear of a secret Russian weapon.

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having all the angles covered in this matter. He stated that reports of hit
sc ientists and findings of the various Air Corps installations will be available
in his office. Xe advised that to complete the picture he desired the assistance
of the Federal Bureau of Inveatigation in locating and ques tioning the individual•
who first sighted the so- called fiying disks in order t o ascertain whether or not
they are sincere in their statements ths.t they saw thes e disks. or whether their
statements were prompted by pere, nal desire for publici t;v- or political reason•.
General Sohulgen as sured Mr. Reynolds that there a.re no War Department or Navy
Department research projects presently being condu:::ted which could in any vay be
tied up with the fiying disks. .Jl.!!leral Schulgen indicated to ·Mr. Reynold1 that
if the Bureau would cooperate with him in this matter, he would ofter all the
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Mr. Reynolds also discussed this matter with Colonel L. R. Forney of MID.
Colonel Forney indicated that it was his attitude that inasmuch as it has been
established that the :tly1118 disks are not the result of any Army or Navy experi- •
mente, the matter is of interest to the FBI. He stated that he was of the opinion
that the :Bureau, if at all possible, should accede to General Schulgen•s request.

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should go into these investigations, lt being noted that a g reat bulk of those
alleged discs reported found Have been pranks. It is not believed that the
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I desire to e11aiowl ge :eceipt or your letter dated July 14, 1947,
end to express r::.y appreolition to you £or briogins this witter t.o rq attention.
The inf'ormnti~A aet forth in your letter has been car tully reviewed
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Pl ease forgi ve me for taking up your t i me , with this item. It really is•'t
necessary .Yet , al though everybodys tongue was waggi ng from the Ee.st and to the
V/est coast , I coul dn ' t resist putting my oar in.

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Saucers in the Sky . Heading for the Milky \i:lf • Funny?I dont know .

we read and re.ad and read . "Sky Disc Derby Open to All"• "Calls "Saucers"Trick
of Vision" -"Bel1eve i t or not , 27 States see those flying sauoers" - "Vlho saw the
savcers ?40 States 1n the Game 11 - "Cel eatia l Dishes sought bet\"leen the Raindrops"11
Find 'Disk' is weather k1te"- 11 Disks cal led chunks of M1rage 11 - 11 Report new Red
Planes resemble 1Flying saucers'" .-Ai r -liner crew reports seeing 9 flying diske
for 12 minutes" . That ' s the way it went on, for days and days .
Please , dont remind me that this i s a military problem. Soldiers f~eht thee~emy out in the open and away from home if possible . The Federal Agents(the unsung
heroes)fight the ememy under cover and in their home grounds . so . Here I am.
These so-ialled saucers may be kites , but accorfi1ng to reports , these things
didn ' t flutter or float , they sailed and kites don ' t sail , t118 st•anges part is,
they all sailed in the same direction,from West to East .
Rewards were offered , no collectora . Ploo.nes chased them, none captured. They had
to land, no finders . so . As long as the Military , Scientist and Civilians deny,being
respomsible for this . were doea it lead to JAn enemy . A little while back,it was
mentioned somewhere that Russia had or has a contraption for their next war,emitt1ng sound(like a silent whistle for dogs}v,hat 1t'suxto do,th their enemy,!
don ' t know.If a country was experimenting such a weapon, the brave people of the
u. s . were not scared. They only informed the so- called enemy how successful they
t il•t:1 were •
I t could be an optical illusion, or;suppoaing some unwelcomed persons,pl anted
a few wel l chosen words,here and there and l eft the rest to a}1 confused mind,
These innocent people reporting the phenomena .
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What confuses me i s,that when we became too cur ious and determined to find
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out what they really are , those things disappeared and we found substi,Utes,calle3
kites . These things resembling description as near as possible to the real thing,
Why couldn't these things have been directed b. ck home again like a homit1g pigeon~
To make sport of this thing , is 1:Bd taste . It sort of reminds me of the boy tha~
cried WOLF . Whan the wolf really came . 'l.'Was sad . He ,was a niceboy . There sLo'lJ r: hr.
law, against such Jokes or e:2_1;p~.rj-~illi§ui\~ea'"t O -th . . ""uu.re •They should. b6° co1:i;
{" ~pplohorluou, snould be tried for trea
e proper authorities . These
ess or r i dicules . vie can ' t take any h son,even;if the so- called joke seems
This POOH POOH business . is no joke . c ances . At this age , Tima is slow.Man,is
I had in mind that the floods were res
rushing waters of the Miss1ss1ppi , M1ssourio~~1~!e for these disks (mil'ages) t:
:~~ go11ng from East to Vlest .,plus the Catskill a 1 et, hColumbia and Ohio Rivers. 'i
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REOOMMENDATION
There is attached a Bureau Bulletin to the Field for their
assista:ooe in handling this matter.

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Refereooe is ma.de to my memorandum to you i n the above captioned
matter datod July 10, 1947, indicating that Brigadier Geraral George F.
Schulgen of the Army Air Corps Intelligence had requested that the Bureau
cooparate with the Army Air Corps Intelligence in conmction with the above
captiored natter. The Director noted on the refereooed nemora.n::l.um, 11I
would do it but bef ore agreeing to it we must insist upon full access to
discs recovered . For instance in the I.a . case the Arnry grabbed it an::l. would
not let us have it for cursory examiration. 11
This is to advise that Spacial Agent Reynolds has recontacted
General Schulgen arrl advised him in connection with the Director's notation.
General Schulgen in:iicated to Mr. Reynolds that he desired to assure .Mr.
tloover of complete cooperat ion in this matter arrl stated that he would issue
instroo t:i.ons to the fie Jd directing that all coop:3ra.tion be furnished to the
FBI an::i that a ll discs recovered be made available for the a.JGmira tion by
the FBI Agents. General Schulgen pointed out to ili'. Reynolds tha. t he will
f rom t ime to tine ma.Im the results of the stud:i.a s of his scientists available
to the Bureau for the assist.a.me of the FBI Fi eld Offices. Gerera.l Schul gen
iniicated to llr. Re:ynolds that there has been a decrease in the reported
sil?}ltings of the discs wnich migit be oocause of the fact that it has lost much of
its ~bli city value. He indicated, hoviever, that he believed it mcessary to
follow this matter through to dete:nnirn as mar as possible if discs wre in
fact seen and to detennine their origin.
General Schulgen inquired of Mr. Raynolds the methoo. by which the
Bureau would maka the infornation obtained from the Bureau' s inquiries, known
to the Air Corps, in the Field as well as at the 7.ar Deplrt:rrent level. Mr .
Reynolds pointed out to General Schul gen that the best procedure appeared to
be through the regular established chanre l s . It was pointed out to General
Schul.gen that the Bureau Field Offices maintain close liaison with · the
Intelligence Divisions of the various Annie s as '\'Jell as close liaison with the
Intelligence Division of the "i~r Depi.rtmmt . ~ r a l Schul gen ind:i.categ that he
would be satisfied to receive information thr o~
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Gamral Schulgen indicated to Mr. Reynolds that he believed t.i-iat there
was a possibility that this entire matter might lnve been started by subversive
iniividuals for the purpose of creating a mas s hyster ia . He suggested that the
Bureau keep this in min:i in any interviews corrlucted reg:i.rcling reported sightings.
General Schulgen stated to 11r. Reynolds that he ,.,ould make avail.able to the Blreau
all in.fornation in the possession of the Air Corps reg:i.ro.ing the sightings ''fich
vrere first reported so that the Bureau could con:luct some investig:i.tion re~ng
these irrlividual s to ascertain their motives for reporting that they had o~'rved
flying discs . Vfuen Gemral Schulgen nakas the information avail.able regardwg
tltnese
in::liv.i.duals, it wil l be promptly brou/j:l.t to your attention.

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July 22, 1947

Mrs. GWYNNE M~HANT, Informant
FLYING OBJECTS IN AIR

Mrs. GWYNNE M. MERCHANT ha·s come to the resident agency at Santa Fe,
New Mexico on several occasions to report that she has received information
concerning flying obj ects passing through the air. Some of the reports that she
has received concern light objects seen at night vmich have allegedly been followed by explosions . She advised that one of s.uch objects was reported by FRANK
....,. BURTRAM, Forest Ranger, who works near Canj ilon, New Mexico. She claims that
others were seen near Park View and Tierra Amarilla, New Mexico.
Mrs . MERCHANT called attention to clippings from various newspapers
concern.i ng 11 disc-like 11 objects seen in New Mexico and other parts of the country.
Mrs. MERCHANT claims to be a student of radio waves and r.zy forms, and
contends that the above mentioned objects mey be missiles similar to those appearing over Sweden some time ago.
Mrs. MERCHANT has discussed the above with officials of the Atomic
Energy Comnission, and has written the Secretary of War and other government
officials concerning her theories. Mr. SIDNEY NEWBURGER, Chief of Security and
1Intelligence for the A.E.C.,has advised that officials at Los Alamos consider Mrs.
MERCHANT unreliable and possibly not well balanced mentally. She has mentioneato
agents of this office that she was struck by lightning when a child.
On July 15, Mrs. l!ERCHANT came to the Santa Fe resident agency and
advised that she had written to WALTER WINCHEIL, promising him a story in connection
with the "flying discs."
The foregoing infonnation is being submitted to the Bureau, inasmuch as
Mrs. MERCHANT has written to several government officials and Mr. WINCHELL.

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particular case at hand, allow G-2 to handle tn d not take any juri. sdiction fort he
FBI. He was ttold the Bureau W>uld be interested in being kept advised of develop' ments, and in copies of the photographs he said C-r-2 would make of the object
found, but that he should not allow himself to be jockeyed into a position where
investigative responsibility, if any were entailed, 10 uld .f'all on us. Mr. Weeks said
he would so handle unless r called him back immediately lfith instructions for
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1 . On 1 July 1947 , Lt William G. cGinty , USN, 195803 , P- 80
Student , Williams Field, Chandler , Arizona , was interviC\,ed by
this Agant , and stated in substance ; That on 30 June 1947 , at about
0910 , MST , he was. flying at 25 , 000 feet over Grand Canyon, Ai:!izona , in
a P - 80 type aircraft . He stated that he was heading south towards
Wi l liams Field , Ariz ., when he saw two round objects going at inconceivabl e speeds , straight down . He fur.ther stated that his reactions
were to turn away from the objects . He further stated that one of the
unidentifiable objects followed the other seconds apart . He further
stated that due to the speed of the objects , he could only see that
they were circular , and that they were possible light gray in co-lor .
He further stated that it was his opinion that the objects were approximately eight feet in diameter . In conclusion , he stated that the
objects would have probably hit the ground approximately twenty - five
miles south of the South Rim of Grand Canyon, Arizona .
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Lt McGinty gav e his' permanent address as . 1~ . A . M. T . c .,
Point Hugu, Port Hueneme , Calif .

2 . On 1 Ju l y 1947 , Captain Ma lcolm
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lat l,t E. B,.....t.rmstrbng , stationed at Hq , 10th AAF, Brooks AAF, Texas
Nd- r~ l a t e ~!m ~hat he saw a formation of unexplainable objects
1n the v1c1n1ty\aua~e Mead , Nev . Captain Armstrong , further stated
that hia bi--ot~ii -'ated the objects were heading south, and were at
~_..,..,,~ap-p:;.-oxtnra.te l y" 10,~00 feet altitude .

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on the object& that h is brother had seen . Lt . E . B. Armstrong can be
contacted at Hq, l~~h AAF , Brooks Field , Texas for further information .

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WERE KILLED .

THE WRECKAGE WAS SCREENED BY AAF INTELLIGENCE FROM

MCCHORD FIELD .

THE TACOMA NEWS TRIBUNE AND THROUGH THEI THE UNITED

PRESS PUT OUT A STORY THE
. PLANE WAS CARRYING PARTS OF A DISC WHICH
HAD STRUCK A BOAT OWNED BY HAROLD DAHL AND FRED CRISMAN , TACOMA, WN .
RICHARDS ADVISED THAT TODAYS ISSUE OF THE OREGONIAN CARRI ES A UP STORY
STATING THAT DAHL DENIES SAYING THE METAL FRAGMENTS HE FURNISHED WERE
FROM A DISC ,

AND ANALYSIS OF THE FRAGMENTS SHOWS THEM TO BE FROM A

TACOMA SLAG MILL .

NO AAF INTELLIGENCE PERSONNEL AVA ILABLE PORTLAND .

NO RECENT SUBSTANTIVE REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS IN THE PORTLAND AREA .
SEATTLE VERIFY AT MCCHORD FIELD AND SAN FRANCISCO VERIFY

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HDQRTS . SF , SUBMITTING TELETYPE SUMMARIES TO THE BUREAU .

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DIC~NKIN , AN EXPERIENCED PILOT, UHO HAD REPORTED JUNE FOURTEEN
LAST SEEING A FORMATION OF TEN FLYING DISCS OVER BAKERS FIELD , CALIF .

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S~cial Agent s.w. Reynolds of the Liaison Section contacted
Lieutenant Colo:ool c. P. L.:artin, Army Air Forces Intelligen:::e, inquiring
about an article 'l'lhich app:3ared in the ~st Cc:ast rewspapers recently
stating in substan:::e that an airplane carrying ~covered flying saucers
crashed in r oute from Portlarrl, Oregon, to Los Angeles, Galiforni.a.

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that has been received. by Headquarters of the Army Air Forces is that a
CIC Agent of the 4th Air Force\ Headqua..r ters, Hamilton Field, San Fran:::isco,
ms kil:JJ3d in an airplane crash. The Headquarters of the Air Forces have been
advised that he was on a top secret mission. Colonel llartin in::licated that he
was w::rler the impression that the CIC Agent was eith.er on route to or from an
interview with Mr. Arnold m.o is ore of the in::lividuals who first saw ore of
the flying saucers.
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Springer, 1-iaadquarters 4th Air Force~, Hamilton Field, San Francisco, who
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are at tnis t ime unknown by the Headquarters of the Air Forces. Colonel J.artin
pointed out to 1.ir . Raynolds, ho;.ever, that it was his belief that no flying
saucers have been recovered but thaj, it ..as merely an attem12t 1;o reinter'vlew
an individual vho~viously had re~ted seeing ore of the flying saucers:-

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Recently I have hea rd a nd read about reports of disc-shaped aircraft,
or whatever t hey are, i n our western regions. They reminded me of a nearly
forgotten jncident in G~rmany, after the war. I report this to you because
I feel this m~y be of international scope.
My buddy and I went on pass to see a friend of his. One evening the
three of us were driving alone, some ba ck roads when I sighted a strange
looking object in the sky from eight t o ten miles to our front and approximatly 5,000 feet high.
I immediatly stopped the jeep for a better look. fhe object rapidly
came toward us, descending slowly. About a mile awa y i t stopped it's
horizontal motion but continued a slow oscillating descent, similar to a
descending parachute . Then suddenly it dropped in a spiral motion.
Irr.mediatly I drove over to where it had dropped. It took almost five~
minutes to reach the pl a ce but we saw nothing. After ten minutes
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because
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easily have been missed, but I described what I had seen so vividly that
they were as excited as I was. My ,~--t impression was that it was a cloud,
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John Edgar Hoover - Director, Federal Bureau of Inffstigation

Subject: ROBERT J. SROll
There are attached hereto copies of a letter received fron the
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August 8, 1947

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I FLYING DISCS
Re Bureau Bulletin No. 42, dated July 30, 1947,
Series 1947, wherein information is set forth pertaining to
flying discs.
There is enclosed with this letter a newspaper
clipping from the "Norfolk Ledger-Dispatch", dated July 9, 194-7.
The photograph appearing on this clipping is a.lleged to represent
a flying disc which was observed by BILLH'URRENTINE, a Norfolk
school boy, who was successful in photographing the object with
his small camera.
BILLY was interviewed on August 8, 1947 by Special
Agent (A) THOMAS J. OONNOR, at which time BILLY informed that the
original negative was given by him to a Mr. BROWN of the Photo
Craftsman Service, who in turn furnished the negative to the
International News Service. BILLY advised that he has an agreement with .Mr• .BROffl whereby the latter will. share equally in any
profits derived frpm the use of the negative by conmercial firms
or newspapers. As of August 8, 194-7 BILLY has notreceived any
remuneration for the use of this negative.

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of his apartment which is located on the third floor at 410 West
14th Street, Norfolk, Virginia, around noontime on July 8, 1947.
He had re~ numerous newspaper articles pertaining to flying discs
and decided to sit on his front porch in the hopes of seeing one
and attempting to photograph it. On July 8, 1947 BILLY observed
a large, b~ack object moving rapidly through space proceeding from
the southwest to a northeast direction. He said the black object
was foUowed by two smaller objects which also proceeded in the
same direction. BILLY explained that the objects were moving at
a very fast speed which appeared to him to be much faster than
the speed of an airplane, and further, that the objects appeared
to be extremely high. He said that they were much higher than the
average plane travels in the City of Norfolk and appeared to be
above the clouds, and that a white mist followed e~ch of the three
objects. BILLY was \lllable to state what the black objects represented, but admitted that they could have been large balloons . He
indicated that he has observed small, toy balloons flying through
the air, but that definitely these were not the toy type bal loons.
He said that when he first observed the objects they werekat'i"s_ych, 0
a great distance from him that it was not necessary that ~--raise ~6 9 ) - fS
his head in order to see them from his porch on the third n-oor_ ~
of the apartment building. He iomediately turned around tQ. oote.in .
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his cam.era and estimated it took him approximately twenty to thirty
seconds, at which time the discs were al.most directly over his apartment and it was necessary that he stoop and look up almost perpendicular in order to obtain the photograph, which accounts for the
porch railing being shom in the newspaper clipping. BILLY pointed
out that the day on which he took the picture, the weather was hazy
and somewhat cloudy and there was a slight breeze blowing from the
southwest in the general direction of the northeast, which is the
same direction traveled by the black image which he photographed.
Inasmuch as the Army authorities in the Tidewater Area
of Virginia are cognizant of the above information, no further investigation will be conducted by this office in this matter.
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~y Youth Who Is Amazed Because No One Else Saw It
By GEORGF. J1J.: B1,;H1'
few seconds Jater dicln·t look anyThe flying disc "was lots hig~er thing like saucers."
than an automobile." and 1.3-year- Looked t,ike Football
loJd Ril Turrenline. of 410 \Vest The bov st.u ck to his football
Fom·teenth Street. docsn·t under- comparison, explaining that the
stanrl whv almost everybody in object was sort~f rounded. more
Xorfolk didn't see it.
oval than disc-like, and that though
In fact. when h<' came to the it wobbled in its not·theastward
Ledger-Dispatch with a photograph flight i~ was _traveling very rapidly,
he had taken of the object. Ile about 600 miles an hour.
wanted to know why the newspa· He guessed that the altitude of
! pers hadn't alreact,· taken 1a pie- the thing was about :i,000 feet,
of 1t. "l thought vour nhoto• just below the clouds. In color it
,1 ere fast," he t91c1· a re- was "gray, almost black,"
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tells L <'dger-DlSJlllt<'h reporter Gco1·gr H<'rh('t·t (left) of t h(' "lud , .1"
circum~tances which ('nabl ed him to takl' thl' photogra ph :it fa r
right of a fl)'ing disc. Ho\\ ever, th e boy said th<' objl'l't pictured h l'l'c
looked and 1110,•('d morP lik<' a football, lreiog round r d nucl oval, 1·athrr
tha n di,r -llke. Bill t ook this picture from th e po1'('h or his h onw at
4 10 West )<'oul'leent h Sh l'H hrtw<'e11 1J o'c-lock and noo n 'l'u t•sda~·.
(Editoi·'s ' iot<': ..\!though the maybe a rock or stone. The edges
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,Lcdger-Oi,pate h has had m:rny re- Iglittered, he said, and seemed to be u si ug an °1d cnme,·a, " 1
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()orts of ril ing di,c~ and sau<·c,·s in !trailing dust. Neither it nor the said thr "flying foothnll" i,hown here was follo\\rd br two smali t·
rccl'ut da, s, 110 otlier person re- two which follo\\ed made any ones, all moving at abou t 600 miles an hou1• and h<' gnr,secl lhl') , n e
po1·tcd s1·ein•,~ thr ob,kct which Tur- sound.
about 3,000 fee t h igh, Just orlo..!v the clouds. 'f'hl' plwtograph r1•11ro1l ••
rentlnc photog1·apl1ecl.)
Bill ~aid he wasn·t yery sur- ed hen • i~ an P11lal·ge111ent mad!' b~· Photo Craffs mP11. Jn the fo1
However, Bill, said he had done pl'is~~I when _he saw th~ ·obj~ct, ga·ouncl or young 'l'111·rentine's 11kt m·r is the 1ion·h t·ail of hiq home.
some fast moving himself shortly 1but almost killed myself getting
shots of it with his camera, set at enlargement made by Photo Craftsbefore :i.o~n T uesday, ' 1' Irnn I1 e J/100th of a second
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Ph?to expe1 ts of th~s _f11 m :11 e
and spinning like a football" and ,Josephme, lo co1:ne,and Jook, ~ut ~onv1~_ced that the bo, _did a ~!ne
coming from the southwest.
apparently she d1dn t bellen him. .10~ wi th th~ old cameia he . \as
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using. Havmg closelv exammed
He had iust returned from Sum- • s t. c f ) mg oot a
negative th f v said the only
me1· school clas~es at }.1aury, he ov~r, Bill said he took three shots flaw was in the kind of film which
said, and with all the talk about of it. but ,~hen he hurriedly t~•vel- perhaps didn't bring out enough
"flving saucers," had gone ouL oped, th e film,_ aft~r leggln~ it t? detail. 'l'hev poi nted out, however,
wi h his t·.amcra to see if he could Olne~ Road fo1 ~ vial of develope1. that this i:vasn't really a flaw, in
se anythmg.
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graph, with the cornparison affl ng saucers:· he said. "The hig
He showed a reporter a contact 1£orde'd by the front porch rail and
o. I took a picture of and_ the two pnnt ~e _ha~ ~ade hlms<;"lf. __and the tre<'s, w~s certainly the best
little one~ that c-ame behmcl It a the pictu1e 1ep1oduced heie ts an one tl:tken smce the mysterious
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to iilll)ortant aeronautical and 1nilitary authorities, to a numbor of public officials,
and to a fow publications•
The writer h8:_s l i ttle axpoctation t hat anything of import will be ~ecc;nplished
by this gesture . The moro fact that the data here i n ~ere obtained by so- called
supernormal~ i s~bably sufficient to insure i ts disregard by nearly all the
per sons addr essed; never theless it seems a public duty to make i t available. (The
present writer has several university degrees and uas formerly a universi t y department head) .
A very seri ous situation may develop at &ny t i me uith r egard t o th~ "flying
saucers."
If one of the so shc-uld be attacked , t he attacking plane '17111 almost cer tainly be destroyed. In tho public mind this might create near panic and international suspici on. The princip84- data concerning these craft is no~ at hand and must
be offered , no matter how fantastic and Wli ntelligiblo it may seem to minds not
previously i nstructed in thinking of this type.
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Part of the disks carry cre~s , others are under remote control.
Their mission is peaceful. The visitors contemplate settli ng on this ~lanot.
These visitor~ are human- liko but much larger in size.
They are NOT excarnate earth people, but come from their o;m \/Orld.
They do NOT come from any "planet " as -10 use tha ,;1ord, but from an otheric
planet .mich intorpenetratos 7~th our orm and is not per ceptible to us.
The bodies of the viaitors , and the craft also , automatically ''I:Jatcrialize"
on entering the vibratcry rate of our dense matter: ( Cp. "apports. 11 )
The disks possess a tYl)e of radiant energy, or a ray , which will easil y
disintegrate any attacking ship .
They r eenter the otheric at will, and
so s i mply disappear from our vision, without :brace .
The region from which they come i s NOT the "astral plane" , but corros ponds t o the Lokas or Talas . St udents of esoteric matter s .nll understand
these terms.
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They probably cannot be re~ched by radio, but pr 'F1Y can be by r adar ,if
a signal system can be devised for that ca; snatu
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wit h which our culturo and science are incapable of~~rng. A heavy rosponsib,ili ty rests upon t he rm.- in authority v;ho ar e able to understand ilei. e ma-tter.

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There is attached hereto a letter recei ved.from the captioned
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Anderson together with a letter to the War Depa.rt 1ent for ap~roval.
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SUBJECT: <tYING DISOS

SA:OOTAGE
B.aference is made to Bllreau Bulletin No. 42. Series 1947,
dated July 30, 1947, Section (B), which ad.vises that a.11 reports
concerning flying discs should be investigated by field offices.
Prior to the receipt of these instructions, two iastances
were called to the attention of this office concerning flying discs.
One report was received July 7, 1947, the details of which are set
forth in Milwaukee letter to the Bureau dated July 8, 1947, entitled,
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l'l;ying Discs or Saucers, Misce'l.laneous, Telephone Call from Mr.
J'l.etcher at the lNree.u at 8:30 a.m., 7-7-47." No investigation was
conducted concerning this report.
The second rtport was receiTed by this office at 1:20 p.m.
July 11, 1947, from Lieutenant Colonel HARRY w. SCHAEB"J'.1, who is 1n
charge of the CiVil Air Patrol of Wisconsin, an awd.liary of the
Army Air Forces. On that occasion Colonel SCHAEFER, calling from
Black B.iver Falls, Wisconsin~ telephonicall.y advised this office that
an object in the shape of a di , c, nineteen inches in diameter had been
found July' 10, 1947, by one SIG' RANSON, city- electrician on the Jackson
Oounty f'a.irgrounds, near m.a.ck B.i er Falls, Wisoonsin, about 3:30 p.m.
The disc might be made of a substance SlX:h as cardboard covered by a
silver airplane dope material. The contraption bas a small wooden tail
like a rudder in the 'back and inside of the disc is what appears to be
an ROA photo-eleotric cell or tu.be. Also inside the disc is a. little
electric motor with a shaft running to the cent er of the disc. At one
end of the shaft is a very small propeller. In Colonel SCHAEF!lt's
opinion that contraption might possibly have been made by some juvenile.
Oolonel SCHAEl'm stated that he desired to return the contraption to
Milwaukee and eventually turn it over to the Army Air Jorces, but that
the finder, SIG HANSOlf, apparently wanted to get some publicity on bis
find. and wanted it returned to him.
Thia information was telt!)hOnically- ca.J.led. to the attention
of Assistant Director D. M. LADD of the :Bureau on July 11, 1947.
Subsequmtly, SAC H. X. JOHNSON telephoned Colonel FRED SIEBERT
in charge of Counter Intelligence, l!'ifth Army, Chicago AO of S G-2
Bead.quarters l'ifth Army, last Hyde Park Avenue, Chicago, Illinois, who
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this office was contacted concerning flying discs. Unless contrary
instructions are received frcm the Bureau, this office does not
contanplate taking any further action in connection with the above
two cases, but will tully investigate a.11 future reports concerning
flying discs.

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Mr. Fred .
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231; Himebaugll Avenue
Omaha, tJebraska
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Inasmuch as the information which you furnished is
of interest to the ar Department I liave taken the liberty of
furnishing it to that agency for their consideration.
Sincerely yours,-

John Edgar Hoover
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